When will the Biden impeachment start?

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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:42 pm

I'd love to see saggy Joe and Kamala in orange jumpsuits and ankle chains. It's something that couldn't be ignored, and would completely seal the deal with Trump and what he stands for.
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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:49 pm

That’s dark. :lol: His safest bet is to go after Fauci.
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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Cunt » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:56 pm

The SCOTUS gang goes both ways, but I don't know if it matters to Trump.

He has gotten the Dems, cut their (Biden) head off, left them leaderless, and now has them (portrayed as) leaping to the defense of deported criminals, over the 'Sitting President'[sup]TM[/sup]

No matter if they end up out of the country, or in, if only ONE Democrat makes a public effort to defend them, the whole gang can be blamed.

All while their 'leader' has quit, and not really been replaced yet.

Is there even a way to deal with that that doesn't (optically) end up a lose for the Dems?
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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by JimC » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:34 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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In the article itself it says it just takes the Supreme Court, the same court that has already ruled in Trump’s favor multiple times.

Anyway, who’s going to stop him having you arrested while the courts work it out?

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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:11 pm

Maybe. But people saying this can’t happen are arguing that this is somehow a special case. In reality Trump’s already doing things that “can’t happen”. Most recently he had people taken off the streets and disappeared to El Salvador. When a judge said he can’t do that, his goons told the judge he has no authority. Republicans are backing the goons.
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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by JimC » Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:22 am

I suppose that the main legal recourse of a judge whose rulings are ignored is to charge someone with contempt of court. But Trump has apparently attained total immunity for actions as a President, so I suppose that judicial sanction might not stick...

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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:27 am

We're going to find out soon enough.
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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:04 am

The autopen story is bullshit straight from a bovine sphincter, previously categorically identified as such.

'Our Beautiful Autopens'
On March 6, a group called the Oversight Project published a bombshell finding: Joe Biden’s signature on almost every document he approved through his presidency was identical.

The conclusion, the Oversight Project found, could only be that the documents had been signed by autopen, a device that reproduces a signature. And although other past presidents have used autopens to sign documents in absentia or overly burdensome paperwork, for the Oversight writers, indicators of Biden’s aging, evident in public appearances toward the end of his term, raised questions about his own autopen use.

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There was more than one problem at the core of this hyped-up story. As the National Archives told Snopes, the Oversight Project had studied not scans of physical documents but digital files published in the Federal Register—which features the documents with a copy of Biden’s signature pulled from a single graphic file sent by the administration at the beginning of the term. The basic premise of the Oversight Project’s entire investigation, in other words, was wrong.

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As for why such shoddy detective work was taken seriously, it should be noted that the group behind the publication is an arm of the Heritage Foundation, the powerful right-wing think tank that authored Project 2025, which lay the groundwork for the ongoing gutting of federal agencies. The Heritage Foundation has in recent years used Oversight Project investigations to spread misinformation about immigration and elections. But Heritage also has a decades-old reputation as a legitimate political force in Washington. For this reason, the autopen claims quickly made their way into certain conservative-friendly mainstream news outlets.

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Oddly, this autopen report didn’t end up popping as much as one might expect in the most conspiracy theory–addled internet spaces; Trump’s deployment of the autopen idea as evidence that evil left-wing actors had been in control during the Biden administration may have butted up against some of the QAnon-style theories that Trump had been secretly in control. But the autopen episode also shows that the MAGA movement no longer needs fringe conspiracy theory communities to build its grand narratives; with people such as Kash Patel in positions of power, conspiracy theorists are the mainstream.

Take, for example, some of the other stories of the week. On conservative social media, users accused an NPR reporter who accidentally tapped Trump in the face with a boom mic of trying to assassinate the president, perhaps with traces of fentanyl on the mic. (Contact poisoning from fentanyl is another unscientific idea popular on the right.) Tucker Carlson, who still captures a sizable audience as an independent pundit, amplified influencer Candace Owens’ claims that French President Emmanuel Macron’s wife is secretly trans. Elon Musk insisted that the stranded astronauts were political prisoners of the Biden administration.

During Trump 1.0, right-wing conspiracy theories were still fraught enough to have caused scandal. Toward the end of that term, when the president declined to fully disavow QAnon, it was a major story. But between those terms, a massive conspiracy theory—the stolen election—became central to the party’s entire identity, and signing on to that belief became a loyalty test for both supporters and major figures within the administration, including Senate-confirmed Cabinet members. The autopen episode, pushed by a formerly staid think tank, cycling through Trump talking points with near-instantaneous speed, unfiltered by fact-checking and unchecked by pushback of any kind among figures on the right, shows just how differently these conspiracy theories are being received in the new Trump era. The administration’s relationship to conspiracy theories has fundamentally shifted from its first iteration. It’s all, in a way it never was in the first term, so very mundane.

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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:17 am

Nobody cares if he really signed the pardons. Nor how far back they go. Especially if it is linked to evidence presented via the Biden laptop.
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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:22 am

JimC wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:22 am
I suppose that the main legal recourse of a judge whose rulings are ignored is to charge someone with contempt of court. But Trump has apparently attained total immunity for actions as a President, so I suppose that judicial sanction might not stick...

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You're correct regarding the metaphorical regal headgear the Supreme Court has taken it upon itself to bestow on the office of president. Trump can in turn give federal pardons to anybody who commits crimes on his behalf. However, state attorneys general can pursue investigations and bring charges. Normally* (with some exceptions) the general public is shit out of luck due to the doctrine of sovereign immunity.

* What the country has considered 'normal' for the past century or so in regard to just how roughshod the government is allowed to ride over members of the public. The Trump administration has already begun to happily explore beyond those bounds, so I'm not making any bets as to how bad it will get.

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Re: When will the Biden impeachment start?

Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:56 am

I hereby decree that JimC shall be pardoned for any and all forum infractions, offenses and annoyances committed between 3/19/2024 and 3/21/2024 (inclusive).
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