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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:47 am

A Democratic Party organizer in Wisconsin says that the Democrats need to make some serious policy moves that benefit rural voters. For a start he suggests reining in agribusiness corporations & getting broadband internet for the entire country.

He's got a point. If the Democrats continue to ignore flyover country, they're not going to get anywhere. Mitch McConnell, the living roadblock, doesn't look to be going anywhere in the near future. The Senate can and will be an anchor around the neck of the country unless the Democrats make progress there, and that means winning in rural states.

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Post by JimC » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am

In Australia, for many years a conservative political party, the Nationals (formerly the Country Party) were formed specifically to get the rural vote. On and off, they have been the junior coalition party with the Liberal Party, a sometimes fraught relationship. Recently, a series of smaller parties have chipped away at its country base...
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:03 am

It makes strategic sense, but it wasn't rural voters who got the White House for Biden and Harris. The immediate reality is that they will at least pay some lip service to the cities, perhaps with some plum infrastructure initiatives. Of course if the Republicans hold the Senate, none of that is likely to get very far, and doing both (programs for cities and rural communities alike) simply makes too much sense. For the USA it's just crazy talk. Isn't there a war that needs starting somewhere?

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:31 am

The present severely undemocratic system favours the small rural states so just change the system.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:40 am

They should change the undemocratic European system while they are at it.
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Post by Tero » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:33 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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The present severely undemocratic system favours the small rural states so just change the system.

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Sure thing. We'll just scrap the constitution. We will dump all the duties of Gov't on the states. The president will be elected by popular vote. He will just do simple stuff: print money, bomb Iran and control pandemics. Borders are handled by states with bordering Mexico or Canada.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:38 pm

what about all those South Asians swimming ashore along the West coast?
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by JimC » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:57 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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what about all those South Asians swimming ashore along the West coast?
There's always a need for more Asian fusion restaurants in California...
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Post by Seabass » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:27 pm

JimC wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:57 pm
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what about all those South Asians swimming ashore along the West coast?
There's always a need for more Asian fusion restaurants in California...
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:16 pm

We'll never get them working class white dudes back:

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:03 pm

We are a freak show. Have you read about the infighting over diversity in Biden's cabinet? It's bizarre. Apparently, because he's already nominated two whites to key cabinet positions he's limited to finding non-whites for the rest....and if he rolls a six we're in the marsh of despair.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:28 pm

The progressives worked their butts off to defeat Trump and get Biden elected, but as Tony Benn once noted: "Every single generation has to fight the same battles again and again and again. There’s no final victory. And there’s no final defeat."
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:39 pm

What's that got to do with picking someone to head the department of defense?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:51 pm

"With less regulation on the margins we expect the financial sector to do well under the incoming administration” —money manager

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by JimC » Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:13 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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What's that got to do with picking someone to head the department of defense?
Confuse future enemies by choosing a committed, life-long ban-the-bomb pacifist... :tea:
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