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Like I said, the answer seems to be to become more progressive. At least the opposition seems to be saying that more progress means fewer people voting for us...
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https://theweek.com/articles/954673/con ... s-congressThe Constitution, as goofy and jerry-rigged as it is, stipulates that insurrectionists who violate their oath are not allowed to serve in Congress. Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, written to exclude Confederate Civil War traitors, says that "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress … who … having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress … to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same[.]" How the Supreme Court ruled, or whether Republicans actually believe their lunatic claims, is irrelevant. It's still insurrection even if it doesn't work out.
Democrats would have every right, both under the Constitution and under the principle of popular sovereignty outlined in the Declaration of Independence, to convene a traitor-free Congress (also including similaracts committed by Republican senators like Lindsey Graham, David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler, and others), and pass such laws as would be necessary to preserve the American republic. That might include a national popular vote to decide the presidency, ironclad voting rights protections, a ban on gerrymandering either national or state district boundaries, full representation for the citizens of D.C. and Puerto Rico, regulations on internet platforms that are inflaming violent political extremism, a clear legal framework for the transfer of power that ends the lame duck period, and so on. States would be forced to agree to these measures before they can replace their traitorous representatives and senators. If the Supreme Court objects, more pro-democracy justices can be added.
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Mitch relented and will pass a bill, mainly because if he does not, they are do nothing GOP.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/brie ... ccine.html
mainly, he is doing this to make hid party look better for the two senate races in Georgia, ongoing. The voting has started:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/17/here-ar ... tions.html
in person early voting started Nov 14.
Only once did I use early voting in MO. I was out of town on election day (between presidents) and I had to go to an office and vote there. I just called up and asked for the hours, and it was not a big detour on the way home.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/brie ... ccine.html
mainly, he is doing this to make hid party look better for the two senate races in Georgia, ongoing. The voting has started:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/17/here-ar ... tions.html
in person early voting started Nov 14.
Only once did I use early voting in MO. I was out of town on election day (between presidents) and I had to go to an office and vote there. I just called up and asked for the hours, and it was not a big detour on the way home.
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Anti Trump GOP lacking...stuff:
“The reality is, is there a market for an anti-Trump Republican Party now?” said Stuart Stevens, a longtime Republican operative and member of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. “I would say no.”
Just keeping the never-Trump coalition together “will be a challenge in and of itself,” said Evan McMullin, who mounted a conservative third-party presidential bid in 2016. Moving forward, the movement has to “bring more Republicans on to our side of this fight.”
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Some said they intend to shield Republican lawmakers who stand up to Trump. Others floated forming a third party. And still others want to direct their energies toward rebuilding trust in government and using Trump’s ouster as momentum for reforms on government ethics, taking a page from the post-Watergate playbook.
“Can we recruit never-Trumpers to run? Can we find moderate candidates to run, is that the best thing to do? Is the best thing to do to be more helpful to Biden? I don’t think there’s any clear answers right now,” said Tim Miller, a former spokesperson for Jeb Bush and a leading never-Trumper who left the Republican Party in November.
In this Oct. 21, 2016 file photo, Independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin speaks during a rally in Draper, Utah. | AP Photo/Rick Bowmer
Trumpism isn’t going anywhere. The repudiation of GOP candidates up and down the ballot that never-Trumpers longed for never materialized, and Trump is already teasing a 2024 comeback bid. If he runs again, that would keep the activists united, but many are skeptical he’ll follow through. Polls show that two-thirds of Republican voters think Trump didn’t legitimately lose. And more than 120 Republican House lawmakers signed their names to a lawsuit filed by the state of Texas that attempted to subvert the will of the electorate.
Nudging Biden toward the center
Some never-Trump leaders said their biggest point of leverage is within the Biden administration and the Democratic Party, not the GOP. They’re looking to leverage friendships they’ve forged within Biden’s circle to pull the new president toward the center — all but ensuring he will be squeezed by the left and right. Biden’s coalition included a record number of crossover endorsements from past Republican officials at all levels of government.
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“We can be a reminder that it's a dangerous path to start moving too far left,” said Mickey Edwards, a former Republican congressman and co-founder of the conservative Heritage Foundation. “I have friends already who are going to be in good positions in the administration, and that's just a phone call [away]. We’ll have a pipeline into the administration.”
Bill Kristol, a leading figure in the anti-Trump movement, said that “never-Trump Republicans are a small but potentially important part of the overall Biden governing coalition.” If Biden tries to pass an immigration bill, for instance, they could help by touting provisions popular with Republicans and moderates.
“It could be ads. It could be private meetings. It could be talking to business leaders or to ... members of Congress,” he said. “Never-Trumpers can help the Biden administration govern successfully.”
Though several of the never-Trumpers don’t consider themselves Democrats, they aren’t too concerned about the success of the current GOP, either. Edwards said all of the anti-Trump Republicans he knows want the Republican candidates in the Georgia Senate runoffs to lose because a GOP-controlled Senate will stymie a Biden agenda. And a do-nothing Biden presidency would optimize conditions for “another Trump” in four years, he said.
Lincoln Party teams with Dems in Georgia
The Lincoln Project, which drew buzz throughout the year with its viral anti-Trump ads, plans to do what it did throughout 2020: Troll Trump evangelists.
Though the group failed to defeat most of the Republican Senate candidates it campaigned against, Lincoln Project leaders still said they see themselves playing an “accountability” role in the Georgia runoffs and beyond.
“At this point, we're as much never-Republican as we are anything else,” said Reed Galen, co-founder of the group.
The Lincoln Project is “coordinating” with a larger coalition of Democratic and civil rights groups — including Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight, Senate Majority PAC, the NAACP and BlackPAC — on how “we can be helpful to them either with [polling], staff support or financial support,” Galen said.
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In a new TV and digital ad launching soon, the Lincoln Project hits Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.) for stock trading after attending a private Senate briefing about the spreading coronavirus. The ad, first shared with POLITICO, strikes a populist tone that contrasts Loeffler's wealth — her mansion in Georgia and villa in Sea Island — with Americans struggling during the pandemic.
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In the longer term, the 18 Republican attorneys general and majority of House Republicans who backed the failed Texas lawsuit are “not going to get a free pass,” Galen said. “They don't get to run themselves through the car wash on Jan. 21 and say, 'Just kidding, we didn't mean it.’”
Raising money without Trump in the White House to motivate donors is bound to be another challenge for the movement. Lincoln Project leaders said they expect fundraising to dip after the Georgia runoffs, but they’re confident their creativity in ads and messaging will draw attention that helps bring in money. Kristol said “our donors think we made a difference in 2020” and want the group to keep it up.
A secretive anti-Trump group plots what's next
But the path forward for the never-Trump movement writ large is far from clear. A recent email to attendees of the secretive anti-Trump gathering known as the Meeting of the Concerned, which was obtained by POLITICO, illustrates the crossroads that some never-Trumpers face.
With Trump soon leaving office, “it’s worth thinking through what new functions the meetings can or should serve,” Geoff Kabaservice, an organizer of the meeting, wrote to his allies.
He then requested that they fill out a questionnaire, which asked everything from, “Do you believe that, after Trump leaves office, the Republican Party can become a positive force in American political life?” to “Would you prefer to direct your political efforts over the next two years to reforming the GOP, or to supporting the Democrats or a third party?”
Kabaservice said because the meetings are confidential, he could not discuss the specific findings of the poll. But he said those in the movement “worry a little about what’s going to keep us together” after Trump leaves office.
Some believe in “renovating and restoring the Republican Party.” Others say, “Good riddance, and it all needs to be burned down.” As for forming a third party, Kaberservice said, there’s a “huge difference of opinion.”
Sarah Longwell, co-founder of the anti-Trump Republicans for the Rule of Law, said her mission is twofold: Keep fighting attacks by Trump on the election system and protect Republicans who break with Trump or who work with Democrats.
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Her group dropped nearly $1 million in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan defending GOP officials who certified election results in recent weeks. Longwell’s group also launched its first-ever ad buy on Newsmax — a far-right outlet that’s become a favorite of Trump’s — to challenge the misinformation served up to Trump voters at the source. And if Trump runs again, she’ll keep her other organization, Republican Voters Against Trump, going.
Longwell also said, “We want to be there to help provide air support for Republicans who are trying to find a way to work together on sensible things” with Biden, such as infrastructure legislation or reforms that rein in executive power.
A new party?
The Republican Party’s attempts to overturn the election results, including a coming last-ditch effort on the House floor and threats of violence by GOP officials, stunned never-Trumpers. It spurred McMullin to ask in a New York Times op-ed this week whether it was time to form a new conservative party.
That may “include running our own candidates in Republican primaries,” he said in an interview with POLITICO.
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“I wouldn’t advocate for starting a new party without the support of some sitting officials in Congress or elsewhere,” McMullin said. “We’re inching closer to a point in which that might be possible.”
Some leading never-Trump groups have started discussing which Trump loyalists to target in primaries. Among the possibilities: Republican Reps. Louie Gohmert of Texas, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Chris Stewart of Utah, Jim Jordan of Ohio and Paul Gosar of Arizona. They may also challenge Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) by lending support to a Democrat. Conversations are in early stages, however, and targets could change depending on which party wins the Senate.
The amorphous nature of the never-Trump movement is plain in the individuals who compose it. Some have done what they once considered unthinkable and become Democrats. Others said they’re not Democrats, but they aren’t Republicans either, making it harder to plot their next moves.
“I don't see a place for me to get elected to anything in the next four years because Trump and Trumpism is going to dominate,” said former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.). “I'm going to probably be in the political wilderness for the rest of my life.”
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Stevens, of the Lincoln Project, is willing to work for Republicans but is more focused on helping Democrats be a “governing” party.
“Basically, the choice now dividing the parties is not so much ideological as pro-democracy or pro-authoritarian,” Stevens said. “It's unlike anything we've ever seen. We've had authoritarian movements in America before, but we've never had one so embraced by a majority of a party to throw out election results.”
The Biden Transition
Joe Biden may be the new president-elect — but with President Donald Trump continuing to challenge the results and Senate control up still up for grabs, the story of the election is far from over.
BIDEN'S PLANS
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is backingRep. Deb Haaland of New Mexico for Biden's Interior secretary pick.
Biden to tap former EPA chief McCarthy to lead climate team.
Can Pete Buttigieg, who Biden will nominate as Transportation Secretary, smooth-talk Congress to a massive investment in infrastructure?
Sen. Bob Casey says he sees an opportunity for Biden and McConnell to cut deals.
TRUMP AND THE GOP
A Republican-led Senate panel provided a three-hour platform for Trump allies to dispute the results of the 2020 election.
Trump turns on McConnell for calling Biden president-elect.
MAGA world may resist the vaccine, but they still want Trump to get credit.
How McConnell and the GOP let Trump down gently.
COMING UP: GEORGIA SENATE RUNOFFS
'Vote like your lives depend on it': Biden makes urgent plea in Georgia Senate races.
Biden puts skin in the game in Georgia.
The Georgia runoffs become a high-stakes GOP fundraising experiment.
Democrats call civil war cease-fire during Georgia Senate runoffs.
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“The reality is, is there a market for an anti-Trump Republican Party now?” said Stuart Stevens, a longtime Republican operative and member of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. “I would say no.”
Just keeping the never-Trump coalition together “will be a challenge in and of itself,” said Evan McMullin, who mounted a conservative third-party presidential bid in 2016. Moving forward, the movement has to “bring more Republicans on to our side of this fight.”
Advertisement
Some said they intend to shield Republican lawmakers who stand up to Trump. Others floated forming a third party. And still others want to direct their energies toward rebuilding trust in government and using Trump’s ouster as momentum for reforms on government ethics, taking a page from the post-Watergate playbook.
“Can we recruit never-Trumpers to run? Can we find moderate candidates to run, is that the best thing to do? Is the best thing to do to be more helpful to Biden? I don’t think there’s any clear answers right now,” said Tim Miller, a former spokesperson for Jeb Bush and a leading never-Trumper who left the Republican Party in November.
In this Oct. 21, 2016 file photo, Independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin speaks during a rally in Draper, Utah. | AP Photo/Rick Bowmer
Trumpism isn’t going anywhere. The repudiation of GOP candidates up and down the ballot that never-Trumpers longed for never materialized, and Trump is already teasing a 2024 comeback bid. If he runs again, that would keep the activists united, but many are skeptical he’ll follow through. Polls show that two-thirds of Republican voters think Trump didn’t legitimately lose. And more than 120 Republican House lawmakers signed their names to a lawsuit filed by the state of Texas that attempted to subvert the will of the electorate.
Nudging Biden toward the center
Some never-Trump leaders said their biggest point of leverage is within the Biden administration and the Democratic Party, not the GOP. They’re looking to leverage friendships they’ve forged within Biden’s circle to pull the new president toward the center — all but ensuring he will be squeezed by the left and right. Biden’s coalition included a record number of crossover endorsements from past Republican officials at all levels of government.
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“We can be a reminder that it's a dangerous path to start moving too far left,” said Mickey Edwards, a former Republican congressman and co-founder of the conservative Heritage Foundation. “I have friends already who are going to be in good positions in the administration, and that's just a phone call [away]. We’ll have a pipeline into the administration.”
Bill Kristol, a leading figure in the anti-Trump movement, said that “never-Trump Republicans are a small but potentially important part of the overall Biden governing coalition.” If Biden tries to pass an immigration bill, for instance, they could help by touting provisions popular with Republicans and moderates.
“It could be ads. It could be private meetings. It could be talking to business leaders or to ... members of Congress,” he said. “Never-Trumpers can help the Biden administration govern successfully.”
Though several of the never-Trumpers don’t consider themselves Democrats, they aren’t too concerned about the success of the current GOP, either. Edwards said all of the anti-Trump Republicans he knows want the Republican candidates in the Georgia Senate runoffs to lose because a GOP-controlled Senate will stymie a Biden agenda. And a do-nothing Biden presidency would optimize conditions for “another Trump” in four years, he said.
Lincoln Party teams with Dems in Georgia
The Lincoln Project, which drew buzz throughout the year with its viral anti-Trump ads, plans to do what it did throughout 2020: Troll Trump evangelists.
Though the group failed to defeat most of the Republican Senate candidates it campaigned against, Lincoln Project leaders still said they see themselves playing an “accountability” role in the Georgia runoffs and beyond.
“At this point, we're as much never-Republican as we are anything else,” said Reed Galen, co-founder of the group.
The Lincoln Project is “coordinating” with a larger coalition of Democratic and civil rights groups — including Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight, Senate Majority PAC, the NAACP and BlackPAC — on how “we can be helpful to them either with [polling], staff support or financial support,” Galen said.
OPINION | FOURTH ESTATE
How Secession Became America’s Favorite Idle Threat
BY JACK SHAFER
In a new TV and digital ad launching soon, the Lincoln Project hits Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.) for stock trading after attending a private Senate briefing about the spreading coronavirus. The ad, first shared with POLITICO, strikes a populist tone that contrasts Loeffler's wealth — her mansion in Georgia and villa in Sea Island — with Americans struggling during the pandemic.
Advertisement
In the longer term, the 18 Republican attorneys general and majority of House Republicans who backed the failed Texas lawsuit are “not going to get a free pass,” Galen said. “They don't get to run themselves through the car wash on Jan. 21 and say, 'Just kidding, we didn't mean it.’”
Raising money without Trump in the White House to motivate donors is bound to be another challenge for the movement. Lincoln Project leaders said they expect fundraising to dip after the Georgia runoffs, but they’re confident their creativity in ads and messaging will draw attention that helps bring in money. Kristol said “our donors think we made a difference in 2020” and want the group to keep it up.
A secretive anti-Trump group plots what's next
But the path forward for the never-Trump movement writ large is far from clear. A recent email to attendees of the secretive anti-Trump gathering known as the Meeting of the Concerned, which was obtained by POLITICO, illustrates the crossroads that some never-Trumpers face.
With Trump soon leaving office, “it’s worth thinking through what new functions the meetings can or should serve,” Geoff Kabaservice, an organizer of the meeting, wrote to his allies.
He then requested that they fill out a questionnaire, which asked everything from, “Do you believe that, after Trump leaves office, the Republican Party can become a positive force in American political life?” to “Would you prefer to direct your political efforts over the next two years to reforming the GOP, or to supporting the Democrats or a third party?”
Kabaservice said because the meetings are confidential, he could not discuss the specific findings of the poll. But he said those in the movement “worry a little about what’s going to keep us together” after Trump leaves office.
Some believe in “renovating and restoring the Republican Party.” Others say, “Good riddance, and it all needs to be burned down.” As for forming a third party, Kaberservice said, there’s a “huge difference of opinion.”
Sarah Longwell, co-founder of the anti-Trump Republicans for the Rule of Law, said her mission is twofold: Keep fighting attacks by Trump on the election system and protect Republicans who break with Trump or who work with Democrats.
Advertisement
Her group dropped nearly $1 million in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan defending GOP officials who certified election results in recent weeks. Longwell’s group also launched its first-ever ad buy on Newsmax — a far-right outlet that’s become a favorite of Trump’s — to challenge the misinformation served up to Trump voters at the source. And if Trump runs again, she’ll keep her other organization, Republican Voters Against Trump, going.
Longwell also said, “We want to be there to help provide air support for Republicans who are trying to find a way to work together on sensible things” with Biden, such as infrastructure legislation or reforms that rein in executive power.
A new party?
The Republican Party’s attempts to overturn the election results, including a coming last-ditch effort on the House floor and threats of violence by GOP officials, stunned never-Trumpers. It spurred McMullin to ask in a New York Times op-ed this week whether it was time to form a new conservative party.
That may “include running our own candidates in Republican primaries,” he said in an interview with POLITICO.
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“I wouldn’t advocate for starting a new party without the support of some sitting officials in Congress or elsewhere,” McMullin said. “We’re inching closer to a point in which that might be possible.”
Some leading never-Trump groups have started discussing which Trump loyalists to target in primaries. Among the possibilities: Republican Reps. Louie Gohmert of Texas, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Chris Stewart of Utah, Jim Jordan of Ohio and Paul Gosar of Arizona. They may also challenge Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) by lending support to a Democrat. Conversations are in early stages, however, and targets could change depending on which party wins the Senate.
The amorphous nature of the never-Trump movement is plain in the individuals who compose it. Some have done what they once considered unthinkable and become Democrats. Others said they’re not Democrats, but they aren’t Republicans either, making it harder to plot their next moves.
“I don't see a place for me to get elected to anything in the next four years because Trump and Trumpism is going to dominate,” said former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.). “I'm going to probably be in the political wilderness for the rest of my life.”
Advertisement
Stevens, of the Lincoln Project, is willing to work for Republicans but is more focused on helping Democrats be a “governing” party.
“Basically, the choice now dividing the parties is not so much ideological as pro-democracy or pro-authoritarian,” Stevens said. “It's unlike anything we've ever seen. We've had authoritarian movements in America before, but we've never had one so embraced by a majority of a party to throw out election results.”
The Biden Transition
Joe Biden may be the new president-elect — but with President Donald Trump continuing to challenge the results and Senate control up still up for grabs, the story of the election is far from over.
BIDEN'S PLANS
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is backingRep. Deb Haaland of New Mexico for Biden's Interior secretary pick.
Biden to tap former EPA chief McCarthy to lead climate team.
Can Pete Buttigieg, who Biden will nominate as Transportation Secretary, smooth-talk Congress to a massive investment in infrastructure?
Sen. Bob Casey says he sees an opportunity for Biden and McConnell to cut deals.
TRUMP AND THE GOP
A Republican-led Senate panel provided a three-hour platform for Trump allies to dispute the results of the 2020 election.
Trump turns on McConnell for calling Biden president-elect.
MAGA world may resist the vaccine, but they still want Trump to get credit.
How McConnell and the GOP let Trump down gently.
COMING UP: GEORGIA SENATE RUNOFFS
'Vote like your lives depend on it': Biden makes urgent plea in Georgia Senate races.
Biden puts skin in the game in Georgia.
The Georgia runoffs become a high-stakes GOP fundraising experiment.
Democrats call civil war cease-fire during Georgia Senate runoffs.
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Bravely looking out forcthe rights of employers. Cause, it's his job.
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It's a really crappy vaccine and it should fail. Cause Biden.
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Vaccines are a waste of time and money. We already have hydroxychloroquine.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdza8/ ... -satanistsThe Texas GOP Really Thinks Planned Parenthood Works With Satanists
The end of 2020 is in sight, which apparently means it’s time for Texas Republicans to accuse Planned Parenthood of working hand in hand with supporters of the devil.
In a statement on Thursday, the Republican Party of Texas vowed to continue to fight to restrict abortion, or, as the group put it, to “relentlessly work to end the murder of unborn children in our state during this coming legislative session.”
“We will not allow organizations like Planned Parenthood, who openly work with Satanists, to continue to slaughter the most vulnerable members of society,” the Texas GOP wrote.
The party’s statement contains a link to a 2017 article from Breitbart that alleges Planned Parenthood “teams up with Satanists to promote abortion” in Missouri—based, it seems, solely on the fact that both Planned Parenthood and an organization named the Satanic Temple support abortion rights.
“Satanism has a millennial history of association with child sacrifice, which makes the Temple’s financial and moral support of abortion a natural activity for the sect,” the Breitbart article reads.
But despite its splashy name, the Satanic Temple doesn’t actually believe in the existence of Satan—or any supernatural phenomena at all (or, it should go without saying, child sacrifice). Instead, the group tries to promote critical thinking, the separation of church and state, and what it calls “reasonable agnosticism.” For members of the Satanic Temple, Satan represents a metaphorical resistance against tyrannical rulers.
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What a good way to paint a target on yourself and totally undermine any rational message you may wish to promulgate...But despite its splashy name, the Satanic Temple doesn’t actually believe in the existence of Satan—or any supernatural phenomena at all (or, it should go without saying, child sacrifice). Instead, the group tries to promote critical thinking, the separation of church and state, and what it calls “reasonable agnosticism.” For members of the Satanic Temple, Satan represents a metaphorical resistance against tyrannical rulers.

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Or you could see it as a way to test the extent of religious freedom.
My own faith is bound to the teachings of The Holy Church Of Cheese Is Nice.
My own faith is bound to the teachings of The Holy Church Of Cheese Is Nice.
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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Re: Republicans: continued
Calling yourself the "Satanic Temple" might be a rather cute undergrad way of sticking it to the man, but it gives folk like the Republicans an easy target, and makes it harder for groups like Planned Parenthood to do the serious work of defending women's rights...Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:52 amOr you could see it as a way to test the extent of religious freedom.
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Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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I'm a firm believer in not letting the easily offended or the bad faith actor set the agenda.
This is a central article of faith for all Satanic Sodomisers for Socialism.
This is a central article of faith for all Satanic Sodomisers for Socialism.
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Re: Republicans: continued
Agreed. Satanic Temple aren't the villains of this story; the Republicans are. As always...Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:09 amI'm a firm believer in not letting the easily offended or the bad faith actor set the agenda.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
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