The Thread of Democrats
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Just found a CNN clip, where an interviewer/moderator asked:
Should undocumented immigrants arrested by local police be turned over to immigration officials?
Both Biden and Sanders replied 'no'.
But they aren't the party of open borders.
Should undocumented immigrants arrested by local police be turned over to immigration officials?
Both Biden and Sanders replied 'no'.
But they aren't the party of open borders.
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The completely sensible and justifiable separation of local law enforcement from immigration concerns has already been explained to you. Regurgitating far right bumper sticker rubbish is a good look on you though. Keep it up.
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Sensible according to them two.
Curiously, it is only the insistence that 'Dems aren't for open borders' that suggests that they oppose open borders.
I can't find anything from current Dems saying how they would enforce immigration law. Only how they would stop ICE, and naturalize dreamers.
Curiously, it is only the insistence that 'Dems aren't for open borders' that suggests that they oppose open borders.
I can't find anything from current Dems saying how they would enforce immigration law. Only how they would stop ICE, and naturalize dreamers.
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Indeed, a carefully cultivated ignorance is essential to your schtick. You're clever enough to find propaganda from the right on this issue but somehow, conveniently for you, you're unable to find what 'current Dems' have published. This facilitates your parroting of simplistic and inaccurate attack slogans. You do you.
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Which Dem has made the case for deporting illegal immigrants this year?L'Emmerdeur wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:24 pmIndeed, a carefully cultivated ignorance is essential to your schtick. You're clever enough to find propaganda from the right on this issue but somehow, conveniently for you, you're unable to find what 'current Dems' have published. This facilitates your parroting of simplistic and inaccurate attack slogans. You do you.
Your prose sounds very nice, but it doesn't provide any examples of a Dem addressing that important topic, in a way that makes it clear they are in favour of rule of law.
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Erm, you made the claim so it's up to you to support it. Asking others to disprove your claim to your satisfaction, or else it stands, is fallacious. A fallacy is a failure of logic in one's argument and/or thinking btw.
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As opposed to a phallacy, which is a complete cock-up...Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:32 pmErm, you made the claim so it's up to you to support it. Asking others to disprove your claim to your satisfaction, or else it stands, is fallacious. A fallacy is a failure of logic in one's argument and/or thinking btw.

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I had a look, to see what the party itself says about addressing the border/immigration issues. It isn't mentioned on their platform.
My guess is that they would have to hide their real meaning behind euphemistic language and lots of weasel-words.
Maybe there is something in there, but not very prominently. If they want to convey the message, they should hire a media team.
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
My guess is that they would have to hide their real meaning behind euphemistic language and lots of weasel-words.
Maybe there is something in there, but not very prominently. If they want to convey the message, they should hire a media team.
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
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As I recall, Coito Two banged on about it quite a bit himself, mostly to strawman people who pointed this out.Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:19 pmIt was mainly Trump and chums who were banging on about #nocollusion...
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Still can't find much to support the claim that the Democratic Party is NOT in favour of open borders.
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I support open borders. I'm not sure how we can make them work though. A big first step has to be governments everywhere agreeing upon and enforcing some basic human rights.
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You couldn't find your ass if someone stapled it to your face. What's new?
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I should have based it on more than their party website, posted platform and public statements.
Where did you get the idea that they were opposed to it?
So since there is not agreement on 'basic human rights', even among the US Democrats, it probably can't work. There IS plenty of resources, but not in the right places.I support open borders...basic human rights
For 'open borders' to work, there would have to be no borders. We in Canada have an area the size of...well, Canada. It's as 'open borders' as any large area on earth, so it does work.
But we do run out of stuff. TP, for instance.
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Did the Democrats just try to tack on a bunch of non-critical shit on the relief bill?
THAT should make them popular with the smart kids! Better union rules! Emissions reductions! More millions for the crypt keeper!
Where IS Joe, by the way? He kind of disappeared, though he IS their frontrunner.
Sanders, it seems, set his campaign aside and started pumping money into charities instead of his presidential run. (Biden is collecting donations for his...campaign?)
A perfect example of how, if someone CAN win an election, that should be proof that they don't deserve the job.
THAT should make them popular with the smart kids! Better union rules! Emissions reductions! More millions for the crypt keeper!
Where IS Joe, by the way? He kind of disappeared, though he IS their frontrunner.
Sanders, it seems, set his campaign aside and started pumping money into charities instead of his presidential run. (Biden is collecting donations for his...campaign?)
A perfect example of how, if someone CAN win an election, that should be proof that they don't deserve the job.
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Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:17 pmI support open borders. I'm not sure how we can make them work though. A big first step has to be governments everywhere agreeing upon and enforcing some basic human rights.
Yeah, and it has to be reciprocal. If Mexico or Canada lets me go live and work there then they can come live and work here. Whatever restrictions I face in their country they should face here.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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