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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:57 am

The usual Republican mantra, making it shameful to be dependent on your federal government:

Now that the dog has caught the car, we have to know what to do with it.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... amp-214611
But he includes Republican dogma:
"No society has ever taxed, spent, or borrowed its way into prosperity, and we will not be the first. "

You don't need to borrow if you tax! And millions are "dependent" on soc sec they paid for.

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:29 am

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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:52 am

That 'millenials' video is doing the rounds at the moment. Very interesting.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:11 am

We have now the snowflake generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:14 am

Tero wrote:The usual Republican mantra, making it shameful to be dependent on your federal government:

Now that the dog has caught the car, we have to know what to do with it.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... amp-214611
But he includes Republican dogma:
"No society has ever taxed, spent, or borrowed its way into prosperity, and we will not be the first. "

You don't need to borrow if you tax! And millions are "dependent" on soc sec they paid for.
The State Earnings-Related Pension (SERPs) in the UK has been re-branded a welfare benefit, when actually it was an investment which employer and employees contributed to. it was never intended to mature into a full income, but a bond-backed stop-gap against abject destitution in retirement. UK bonds are worth shit all of course, devalued heavily since 2008 and the 12-fold increase in government QE bond issues to underwrite bank liquidity and share prices. Tax 'reforms' have seen revenues shrink and the tax gap grow. The aged are now being means tested to see if they qualify for even a portion of a lifetime's worth of obligatory investment while bankers are on a gravy train of immorally high levels of wage growth justified from the artificially maintained growth in share prices. This is why we apparently need to slash the social and welfare budgets in the UK - we can't afford schools, hospitals, social care services and ensure that banks are in profit and bankers get their six-figure bonuses. It's the same all over.

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:32 pm

This made me laugh hard.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Jason » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:41 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:We have now the snowflake generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

Which is weird because we grew up with moves like this:


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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:32 pm

:shock:
"With less regulation on the margins we expect the financial sector to do well under the incoming administration” —money manager

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:23 pm

"Republicans are not close to agreement among themselves on what any Onamacare replacement would look like."

Well I can tell you Republicans what the replacement will be. Nothing. No plan will emerge in the Trump era of 4 years.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:43 pm

He has no clue
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/t ... ar-BByaF1N
Advisors could talk him into anything.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:12 am

So will Trump eliminate the national weather service too? After all, we get free weather on tv!

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:51 am

This just in! Trump to ban Wikipedia as fake news. In a first step, all Government computers will have Wilipedia blocked.

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:54 am

Democracy is more than elections

If a one-hour press conference is anything to go by, Donald Trump’s manner, style and message after he enters the Oval Office next week will resemble the persona he has enjoyed putting out on Twitter: making shocking or unexpected policy statements, creating confusion, lashing out recklessly and deflecting attention from anything deemed threatening. If anyone thought that president-elect Trump would be a milder, more presentable, or in any way a different version of what his campaign offered up, those hopes will have been disappointed by his performance in New York. If anything, there was more truculence and bluster, aggression and thin-skinned narcissism than ever, in his first press conference for more than six months.

With it came the reminder of why Mr Trump had avoided such scrutiny for so long, preferring social media messaging. Having to face questioning by media organisations is tiresome; something to cut as short as possible. Mr Trump’s bullying of journalists on Wednesday came alongside renewed attacks berating US intelligence agencies, which he believes are plotting to undermine him. A preposterous comparison with “Nazi Germany” showed there would be no moderation. But his efforts to fend off controversial allegations of compromising material supposedly compiled by Russian agents showed he was as much on the defensive as the offensive. Whether the whole episode will do anything to damage his popularity ratings remains to be seen. He is after all the great transgressor that many voters wanted, a man whose vulgarity and provocations seem to have no bounds, nor his capacity to stay afloat despite them all...

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Re: The suzerain Trump

Post by laklak » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:01 am

We live in interesting times. This is not particularly to my liking.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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