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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri May 08, 2020 4:49 am

The plump toady has been busy. Don't want evidence becoming public! Well, at least not this year.

'DOJ asks court to temporarily block release of secret Mueller grand jury materials'
The Department of Justice came to the Supreme Court today, asking the justices to put on hold the disclosure of grand jury materials from the investigation by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who in March 2019 submitted a report on possible Russian interference in the 2016 election. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld an order by a federal trial court that would require the disclosure to the House Judiciary Committee of portions of the Mueller report that had been redacted, along with grand jury transcripts and materials that had been kept secret. Unless the Supreme Court steps in, the government told the justices, “the government will have to disclose the materials on May 11, 2020, which would irrevocably lift their secrecy and possibly frustrate the government’s ability to seek further review.”

The D.C. Circuit, the government explained, relied on an exception to the general rule of grand jury secrecy that allows courts to authorize disclosure of grand jury materials “in connection with a judicial proceeding” – in this case, the D.C. Circuit reasoned, the impeachment trial of the president. The Department of Justice plans to file a petition for review of the D.C. Circuit’s order; today’s filing asked the justices to temporarily block the release of the grand jury materials until that petition is filed and the Supreme Court rules in the case. The government argued, in a brief signed by U.S. Solicitor General Noel Francisco, that the justices are likely to grant review; by contrast, the government contended, the House Judiciary Committee “has not identified any urgent requirement” to obtain the materials, and there is no impeachment trial currently underway.

The House Judiciary Committee indicated that it plans to oppose the government’s request to block the release of the grand jury materials, but it also indicated that – “out of respect” for the Supreme Court – it does not oppose a seven-day stay to give the justices time to rule on the government’s request.

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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Cunt » Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 3:12 am
Looking at the dishonesty of the DOJ filing on Flynn:

'To Justify Dismissing Mike Flynn’s Prosecution, Timothy Shea Claims Information DOJ Has Always Had Is “New”'
So to sum up:
  • [Acting US Attorney Timothy] Shea says there’s new information, except all of this information was known to DOJ when they prosecuted Flynn. He’s the same DOJ, under the same Administration, and everyone involved with the case had access to this information.
  • Shea says whether someone covers up what he did is immaterial to an investigation of whether they’re working clandestinely for another country.
  • Then Shea claims Mike Flynn didn’t account for all this when he pled guilty the last two times, when in fact the record shows he did know most of it before he pled the second time, and even so, Judge Sullivan judged that he wasn’t entitled to it.
Ultimately, by making a claim there’s new information when DOJ had the information all the time but Mike Flynn did not, Shea admits — seemingly without awareness of doing so — that DOJ has become the defense attorney for a sworn felon.
Is there some kind of evidence which would satisfy you that you were wrong about this?
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Post by Animavore » Fri May 08, 2020 6:19 am

Inching ever closer to full facism.
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Animavore wrote:
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Inching ever closer to full facism.
Oh, you don't need any more inching.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 08, 2020 11:49 am

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri May 08, 2020 1:38 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 am
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 3:12 am
Looking at the dishonesty of the DOJ filing on Flynn:

'To Justify Dismissing Mike Flynn’s Prosecution, Timothy Shea Claims Information DOJ Has Always Had Is “New”'
So to sum up:
  • [Acting US Attorney Timothy] Shea says there’s new information, except all of this information was known to DOJ when they prosecuted Flynn. He’s the same DOJ, under the same Administration, and everyone involved with the case had access to this information.
  • Shea says whether someone covers up what he did is immaterial to an investigation of whether they’re working clandestinely for another country.
  • Then Shea claims Mike Flynn didn’t account for all this when he pled guilty the last two times, when in fact the record shows he did know most of it before he pled the second time, and even so, Judge Sullivan judged that he wasn’t entitled to it.
Ultimately, by making a claim there’s new information when DOJ had the information all the time but Mike Flynn did not, Shea admits — seemingly without awareness of doing so — that DOJ has become the defense attorney for a sworn felon.
Is there some kind of evidence which would satisfy you that you were wrong about this?
Wrong about what, exactly?

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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by BarnettNewman » Fri May 08, 2020 1:51 pm

C’mon L’Emm. It’s not that cunt has to prove there was a Spygate, you have to prove there wasn’t. Simples.

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Post by Cunt » Fri May 08, 2020 2:12 pm

BarnettNewman wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 1:51 pm
C’mon L’Emm. It’s not that cunt has to prove there was a Spygate, you have to prove there wasn’t. Simples.
The justice system is proving it, so I don't need to.

I'm just wondering what it will take to convince everyone. Flynn has been cleared, which was 'impossible', so now the accusations are that it isn't fair.

So what will it take? Confessions by Clapper, Obama or others?

Documentary evidence of illegal spying on the Trump campaign?

Because it looks to me like, even if Schiff is hung by the neck off the Washington monument, with Pelosi reading his confession, lots of folk like Lemmy would still be convinced somehow Trump was guilty, and sucking Putin off...
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by laklak » Fri May 08, 2020 3:00 pm

Hmmm - it's almost like the party in power uses the federal government to fuck with the opposition.

Video at 11.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Cunt » Fri May 08, 2020 3:03 pm

If they get caught this time, even if it is proven publicly and clearly, we'll still get a bunch of people insisting that it must not be true, because Trump.
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Post by Cunt » Fri May 08, 2020 3:13 pm

Someone is suggesting that Flynn was a 'pizzagate' guy. I can't find the tweet, but if it is true, it would drive some lefties NUTTERS.

They do tend to lose it when the stories they insist are 'conspiracy theories' are told.

Schiff still hasn't given his evidence of collusion...I wonder what he is waiting for...?

Must be waiting for the right time.

ANYtime now...it's coming...you'll see. lol
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Joe » Fri May 08, 2020 3:16 pm

laklak wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 3:00 pm
Hmmm - it's almost like the party in power uses the federal government to fuck with the opposition.

Video at 11.
I'm shocked, shocked. :biggrin:
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by laklak » Fri May 08, 2020 3:20 pm

I know. It's almost enough to destroy one's faith in human nature.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by BarnettNewman » Fri May 08, 2020 6:48 pm

laklak wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 3:00 pm
Hmmm - it's almost like the party in power uses the federal government to fuck with the opposition.

Video at 11.
That’s one name for it.

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