US Philadelphia Student Carrying Legal Firearm Shoots It Out

[Clinton Huxley]

The Center has a shoot to kill rule if one of our wolves gets out and is threatening a human. The cascade of events that would lead to that scenario is quite improbable, but we have the protocol if it's needed.

If a wolf did escape, is it at all likely it would menace a human? I presume the Centre wolves are habituated to humans and probably wouldn't pose much of a threat? (That's just a guess, obviously).

[Svartalf]

More like banning guns to reduce people shooting each other...

Then they'll just stab each other or something (which appears to be what is happening here these days).

...but banning or preferable taxing more heavily unhealthy food is certainly something to consider in treating obesity

How about taxing healthy food less.

Food outside restaurants isnt taxed at all in the UK, its sales tax exempt (unless you are counting alcohol as a food of course)

Who would do that?

I do, booze calories are counted as part of my diet.

[mistermack]

I don't want to be sexist or anything, but I'm glad the girl in the video didn't have a gun.
First she sprayed the bear's ass, then the man twice, then the bear's ass again.
It illustrates another problem with guns. Very often the wrong person gets shot.

To be fair to the girl though, she has got a nice ass, so you can't ask everything.
And NRA instructors can shoot their students as well :http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/sh ... p?t=544209


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[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Center has a shoot to kill rule if one of our wolves gets out and is threatening a human. The cascade of events that would lead to that scenario is quite improbable, but we have the protocol if it's needed.

If a wolf did escape, is it at all likely it would menace a human? I presume the Centre wolves are habituated to humans and probably wouldn't pose much of a threat? (That's just a guess, obviously).

Actually, we try to keep them wary of humans. We don't dart them when they need their shots, we capture them and they're awake for the whole procedure. So they get the idea that we're not much fun. They ignore us when they have a fence between, but if we go into the enclosures they get as far away as possible. One wolf, out of his normal turf and somewhat shocked at that, would probably run away from any human that got near him.

[Clinton Huxley]

Interesting, 'Zilla. Esp the bit about not darting them.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Interesting, 'Zilla. Esp the bit about not darting them.

We don't talk to them, give them man-made things as toys or treats, etc. We had a female shot in Phoenix earlier in the year, she was inside the city limits for some damn reason. Given the "see wolf, kill wolf" mentality of some folks the farther from humans they want to be, the better.

[Svartalf]

I find it funny how we instantly recognize wild wolves, where they could theoretically be mistaken for some breed of dog... but feral dogs rarely get shot, unless they manage to get real obnoxious first.

[Gallstones]

Interesting, 'Zilla. Esp the bit about not darting them.

We don't talk to them, give them man-made things as toys or treats, etc. We had a female shot in Phoenix earlier in the year, she was inside the city limits for some damn reason. Given the "see wolf, kill wolf" mentality of some folks the farther from humans they want to be, the better.

Wolf kills are investigated, and if we catch the poacher we prosecute them.

[Seth]

I find it funny how we instantly recognize wild wolves, where they could theoretically be mistaken for some breed of dog... but feral dogs rarely get shot, unless they manage to get real obnoxious first.

They get shot all the time in my neck of the woods. I've shot several "feral" dogs...or merely somebody's pet from the subdivision down the road that escaped and was chasing my cattle, and plenty of coyotes. My best take-down was on a white Samoyed on the run from 480 yards in a 15 mph cross wind with my .243 Winchester. The Animal Control officer who came out to pick up the carcass recognized it immediately and told me it had a history of running at large and attacking both wildlife and domestic livestock. She took the dog and dumped it on the owner's front step and then wrote them a ticket for dog-at-large.

As for wolves, shoot, shovel and shut up. Especially step three. (But only if they are chasing the livestock...)

[Svartalf]

What did I say about making themselves obnoxious?

[Clinton Huxley]

Interesting, 'Zilla. Esp the bit about not darting them.

We don't talk to them, give them man-made things as toys or treats, etc. We had a female shot in Phoenix earlier in the year, she was inside the city limits for some damn reason. Given the "see wolf, kill wolf" mentality of some folks the farther from humans they want to be, the better.

I wish they'd stop pissing about and reintroduce wolves into Scotland.

[Svartalf]

and bears

[MrJonno]

If there isn't a bus stop within 200 metres with a bus at least every 10 minutes then its the wilderness as far as I'm concerned and something to be avoided

[Gallstones]

If there isn't a bus stop within 200 metres with a bus at least every 10 minutes then its the wilderness as far as I'm concerned and something to be avoided

Dude.
You'd avoid this?

[borealis]

It is very very rare to a bear to kill a human around here, even when we live close to each other, people go to woods a lot and joggers and bears face every now and then. In the last 100 years, bear has killed only one person, and even that was an accident, bear didn't mean to kill him: A jogger ran between mom bear and its pups, bear got angry, jogger started to run away ( ), bear caught him and made a wee scratch that wouldn't have killed him but unluckily made some air to go in veins and he died in air embolism. Bad luck, I'd say. The bear hadn't bitten or mauled the jogger at all. When I was a kid, I was taught (as all kids I suppose) what to do if facing a bear in the woods. But even when I've spend time in the woods a lot (even in high density bear areas, where the most popular hiking routes are) I've seen bear in woods only once, and it was from a distance. Usually when hiking (or picking berries or mushrooms) I'm walking slowly and noisy enough to bear to smell and hear me and it has better possibilities to escape. A normal bear around here always evades human if possible. But if I see fresh bear droppings or excavated anthill, I turn around.
I have to confess that I had never heard of bear spray before this thread, but now when I know, I think I must check if it's sold around here too. At least normal pepper spray is licensed and not anybody can buy it.

Talking about bears, there is this one man living in high density bear area, and he has adopted many wild bear pups that have lost their mum. He's been doing that for over 30 years and now he has 5-6 adult bears. The bears have become true friends for him and they go hiking together and he even sleeps in their winter nest sometimes. He talks about his bears really loving way (the translation is really crappy...)