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Re: Media Bias

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Yeah, but what about this other really important question? Your previous post didn't even touch on that, but as you hate Trump I'm not surprised.
My apologies. I completely forgot about Jussie Smollett.
Isn't his auntie VP now?

Anyway, back to the point I was trying to make (still not sure if you got it)

If the department of sex crimes was investigating, it would be primarily about those victims. Ditto if it was the department of sex trafficking.

It was not.

It was the office of public corruption.

He was in jail because of corruption of public officials, rather than because of sex crimes.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm

Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
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Re: Media Bias

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Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
Maybe he stands against data he thinks is shit, even when it agrees with him.
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Re: Media Bias

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Cunt wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:18 pm
Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
Maybe he stands against data he thinks is shit, even when it agrees with him.
Maybe, but why should anybody listen to him?
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Re: Media Bias

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I go out of my way to listen to people I think are wrong.

Believe it or not, my mind has been changed by this technique, on occasion.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:56 pm

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I go out of my way to listen to people I think are wrong.

Believe it or not, my mind has been changed by this technique, on occasion.
So do I, but what changes your mind?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm

Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
It is not a right wing think tank? Who guarantees the data? Look, even it proves the point I am making what is its validity? We all know the right wing verge on the criminal and sometimes are even criminal. It just means data is always dodgy but it will never be dodgy in the positive sense. The beast is always corrupt especially when it comes to wealth.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:39 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm
Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
It is not a right wing think tank? Who guarantees the data? Look, even it proves the point I am making what is its validity? We all know the right wing verge on the criminal and sometimes are even criminal. It just means data is always dodgy but it will never be dodgy in the positive sense. The beast is always corrupt especially when it comes to wealth.
It's not a right wing think tank. It's an agency of the US Federal Reserve, the central bank of the USA. It provides it's data to the public and it's reports are subject to intense scrutiny and review by economists and policy makers. Here's how they describe themselves:

About Economic Research at the St. Louis Fed

Goals


Under the leadership of Research Director Christopher J. Waller, the Division's research economists expand the frontier of economic knowledge by producing high-quality original research in the areas of macroeconomics, money and banking, and applied microeconomics. They contribute to monetary policy discussions by advising Bank president James Bullard on a range of topics, especially in preparation for Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meetings.

The Research Division is in the top 1% of all economics research departments worldwide. The working paper series offers emerging research ideas to stimulate discussion, while St. Louis Fed publications provide analysis and instruction for the general public, journalists, and students. These outlets allow Division economists to quickly and efficiently address economic trends, explore historical and current data for economic policy, and expand the understanding of issues relevant to our region, the nation, and the world.

Research Environment

Economists in the Research Division have a primary responsibility to conduct research. Our economists publish in numerous refereed journals and present at conferences all over the world. Economists develop their own research topics; then, in a collegial environment, they are challenged to move their ideas even further. All the necessary supports are in place to allow them to focus on what they do best—research.

Division leadership understands that the proximity of innovative thinkers can expand current ideas and reveal new areas for exploration. The Division hosts visiting scholars for both short-term and long-term appointments and summer dissertation interns. The Division’s research associates, who support the economists in their research, are encouraged to actively participate in this environment to develop their own skills as future economists and policy experts.

The Division sponsors and cosponsors conferences, seminars, lectures, and workshops on a wide variety of economic topics and invites economists from all over the nation and the world. The regular seminar series features the work of Division economists, visiting scholars, and invited guests.
If you wish to contest their results, that's fine, but a credible critique would address their work, not their alleged ideology and certainly not rely on unproven assertions about their data.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:41 pm

Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:56 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:31 pm
I go out of my way to listen to people I think are wrong.

Believe it or not, my mind has been changed by this technique, on occasion.
So do I, but what changes your mind?
Most dramatically around this? The uneven application of rules (T.O.S. attacks, for example) and the denial that political issues ARE political issues.

The freedom of speech vs trans movement is an example of this. Brit judges favoured an insulting 'shitposter' over a trans activists, using UN human rights to do so.

It's CLEARLY political, and highly so, but pretending it isn't allows the discussions to be avoided. Uneven enforcement of rules does the same (try taking one side or the other on twitter)

The vigorous, often empty accusations about Trump and republicans are what drove me the most to listen to their side of things. And what do you know -the Democrats are at least as corrupt, at least as self-serving, and at least as intolerant as the Republicans, the difference being the way the press treats Flynn vs Swalwell (for a funny example)
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:26 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:41 pm
Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:56 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:31 pm
I go out of my way to listen to people I think are wrong.

Believe it or not, my mind has been changed by this technique, on occasion.
So do I, but what changes your mind?
Most dramatically around this? The uneven application of rules (T.O.S. attacks, for example) and the denial that political issues ARE political issues.

The freedom of speech vs trans movement is an example of this. Brit judges favoured an insulting 'shitposter' over a trans activists, using UN human rights to do so.

It's CLEARLY political, and highly so, but pretending it isn't allows the discussions to be avoided. Uneven enforcement of rules does the same (try taking one side or the other on twitter)

The vigorous, often empty accusations about Trump and republicans are what drove me the most to listen to their side of things. And what do you know -the Democrats are at least as corrupt, at least as self-serving, and at least as intolerant as the Republicans, the difference being the way the press treats Flynn vs Swalwell (for a funny example)
Okay, I go at it differently. What you've listed is just noise to me, and I don't factor it into what I think is right. If someone is making an assertion, I want to know why and how reasonable their thinking is.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:39 pm

Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:39 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm
Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
It is not a right wing think tank? Who guarantees the data? Look, even it proves the point I am making what is its validity? We all know the right wing verge on the criminal and sometimes are even criminal. It just means data is always dodgy but it will never be dodgy in the positive sense. The beast is always corrupt especially when it comes to wealth.
It's not a right wing think tank. It's an agency of the US Federal Reserve, the central bank of the USA. It provides it's data to the public and it's reports are subject to intense scrutiny and review by economists and policy makers. Here's how they describe themselves:

About Economic Research at the St. Louis Fed

Goals


Under the leadership of Research Director Christopher J. Waller, the Division's research economists expand the frontier of economic knowledge by producing high-quality original research in the areas of macroeconomics, money and banking, and applied microeconomics. They contribute to monetary policy discussions by advising Bank president James Bullard on a range of topics, especially in preparation for Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meetings.

The Research Division is in the top 1% of all economics research departments worldwide. The working paper series offers emerging research ideas to stimulate discussion, while St. Louis Fed publications provide analysis and instruction for the general public, journalists, and students. These outlets allow Division economists to quickly and efficiently address economic trends, explore historical and current data for economic policy, and expand the understanding of issues relevant to our region, the nation, and the world.

Research Environment

Economists in the Research Division have a primary responsibility to conduct research. Our economists publish in numerous refereed journals and present at conferences all over the world. Economists develop their own research topics; then, in a collegial environment, they are challenged to move their ideas even further. All the necessary supports are in place to allow them to focus on what they do best—research.

Division leadership understands that the proximity of innovative thinkers can expand current ideas and reveal new areas for exploration. The Division hosts visiting scholars for both short-term and long-term appointments and summer dissertation interns. The Division’s research associates, who support the economists in their research, are encouraged to actively participate in this environment to develop their own skills as future economists and policy experts.

The Division sponsors and cosponsors conferences, seminars, lectures, and workshops on a wide variety of economic topics and invites economists from all over the nation and the world. The regular seminar series features the work of Division economists, visiting scholars, and invited guests.
If you wish to contest their results, that's fine, but a credible critique would address their work, not their alleged ideology and certainly not rely on unproven assertions about their data.
And you believe all that. :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:06 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:39 pm
Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:39 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm
Joe wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Well, Scot has definitely pulled off the ad hominem of the week, calling the US Federal Reserve economic research agency a right wing think tank. It's especially ironic that he is trying to dismiss the US government's own data when it glaringly illustrates the very point he's making.

So the top 1% don't own 90% of wealth in the US, the top 10% sure as hell do, and the bottom 50% don't own jack shit.
It is not a right wing think tank? Who guarantees the data? Look, even it proves the point I am making what is its validity? We all know the right wing verge on the criminal and sometimes are even criminal. It just means data is always dodgy but it will never be dodgy in the positive sense. The beast is always corrupt especially when it comes to wealth.
It's not a right wing think tank. It's an agency of the US Federal Reserve, the central bank of the USA. It provides it's data to the public and it's reports are subject to intense scrutiny and review by economists and policy makers. Here's how they describe themselves:

About Economic Research at the St. Louis Fed

Goals


Under the leadership of Research Director Christopher J. Waller, the Division's research economists expand the frontier of economic knowledge by producing high-quality original research in the areas of macroeconomics, money and banking, and applied microeconomics. They contribute to monetary policy discussions by advising Bank president James Bullard on a range of topics, especially in preparation for Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meetings.

The Research Division is in the top 1% of all economics research departments worldwide. The working paper series offers emerging research ideas to stimulate discussion, while St. Louis Fed publications provide analysis and instruction for the general public, journalists, and students. These outlets allow Division economists to quickly and efficiently address economic trends, explore historical and current data for economic policy, and expand the understanding of issues relevant to our region, the nation, and the world.

Research Environment

Economists in the Research Division have a primary responsibility to conduct research. Our economists publish in numerous refereed journals and present at conferences all over the world. Economists develop their own research topics; then, in a collegial environment, they are challenged to move their ideas even further. All the necessary supports are in place to allow them to focus on what they do best—research.

Division leadership understands that the proximity of innovative thinkers can expand current ideas and reveal new areas for exploration. The Division hosts visiting scholars for both short-term and long-term appointments and summer dissertation interns. The Division’s research associates, who support the economists in their research, are encouraged to actively participate in this environment to develop their own skills as future economists and policy experts.

The Division sponsors and cosponsors conferences, seminars, lectures, and workshops on a wide variety of economic topics and invites economists from all over the nation and the world. The regular seminar series features the work of Division economists, visiting scholars, and invited guests.
If you wish to contest their results, that's fine, but a credible critique would address their work, not their alleged ideology and certainly not rely on unproven assertions about their data.
And you believe all that. :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Ok look, more ad hominem. :coffee:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:10 pm

Keep on taking the kool-aid Joe. :snooze:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:16 pm

Still more ad hominem. Suggests a weak argument :tut:
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