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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:21 pm

They sold the Uranium to Rosatom which is in Toronto. Toronto, and Canada, are now owned by Russia. Unlike the USA, which is owned by China.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:27 pm

Tero wrote:
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They sold the Uranium to Rosatom which is in Toronto. Toronto, and Canada, are now owned by Russia. Unlike the USA, which is owned by China.

Anything else confusing I can help you with? If I don't have time reply, the answer is: Putin.
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Post by Animavore » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:10 pm

Funny how you all think there will be an election in 2020.
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Post by Cunt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:19 pm

Animavore wrote:
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Funny how you all think there will be an election in 2020.
The virus could cancel it, but until (or unless) that happens, the Dem party will go on as if their choice matters.

I don't think they have anyone now who will be likely to beat the 2020 Republican candidate.
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Post by Tero » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:25 pm

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It's the fucking Trump thing all over again. Soon they will hold up babies for him to bless.
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Post by Cunt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:59 pm

What do you think of the CNN/Nick Sandman exchange? Does it affect your trust of CNN?
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Post by JimC » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:12 pm

The cult of personality is an issue, as is the effective buying of votes by increasingly costly electioneering spending.

Solved easily if all campaign spending were totally abolished, and the only thing that candidates could do is show a passport-style photo, and a one page list of dot-point policies.
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Post by Cunt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:23 pm

Cult of personality?

I've heard SO much about how TERRIBLE Tommy Robinson is...some of it may even be true.

The UK (via Sagid Javid - Home Secretary) has done an investigation into the ' origins of the grooming gangs.'

It'll be great when the report is released. I mean, unless they cover it up...

I'll ask again - what do you all think a media smear would look like?

If someone wanted you to ignore a person, demonize them and believe every terrible story about them (while ignoring any which don't fit) and they were as wealthy as a country, how would it look?
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:22 pm

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What do you think of the CNN/Nick Sandman exchange? Does it affect your trust of CNN?
I don't watch CNN. It is merely news. I watch MSNBC.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:53 pm

Tero wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:22 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:59 pm
What do you think of the CNN/Nick Sandman exchange? Does it affect your trust of CNN?
I don't watch CNN. It is merely news. I watch MSNBC.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:29 am

NYT
Mr. Sanders is correct that a recent study published in the medical journal The Lancet showed that his plan would cost $450 billion less in a year than the current health care system. But that study made several assumptions that other economists who have examined the plan have considered unrealistic. Other studies have shown that spending would increase as the plan expands coverage to more Americans, and provides them with expensive new benefits, like long-term care, which few health insurance plans currently cover. This article provides an overview of a few of these studies.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... mates.html

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How much would doctors and hospitals and other providers be paid?
Pay too little, and you risk hospital closings and unhappy health care providers. Pay too much, and the system will become far more expensive. Small differences add up.
Estimated increase in Medicare payment rates paid to medical providers

Estimated increase in Medicare payment rates paid to medical providers

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In our current system, doctors, hospitals and other health care providers are paid by a number of insurers, and those insurers all pay them slightly different prices. In general, private insurance pays medical providers more than Medicare does. Under a Medicare for all system, Medicare would pick up all the bills. Paying the same prices that Medicare pays now would mean an effective pay cut for medical providers who currently see a lot of patients with private insurance.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:44 am

On stage it was just a screaming match about the tens of trillions Bernie would spend.

That and some talk about blacks and racism.
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Post by laklak » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:47 am

Look at it this way - every government program has 10 times the bureaucracy needed and costs 10 times as much as their "estimates". That's the nature of government programs, they have to be everything to everybody otherwise someone yells "UNFAIR!!!". That costs a lot, just look at Obamacare. Why does anyone think that Medicare for All or single payer or whatever is going to be any more efficient or cost effective? Look at the NHS, look at single payer all over the world - they're always bitching about how they need Mo' Money. There's always an excuse (and villains) to explain poor outcomes, and the excuses always start with "not enough funding" and the villains are always "the Other Party". So whatever they start with - 20 Billion, 1,4 Trillion, whatever - know that within a couple of years it will be three times that. They'll start running out of money and people won't cough up more, so standards will drop, people will be lying in hallways for a week, and we have all the usual complaints you see on FB every single day. Our Betters, those Congresscritters and suchlike, will have their own systems and hospitals just like they have now. The rich fuckers will have their own systems and hospitals, just like they have now. We'll get the crumbs, just like we always have, but now with Higher Taxes! (The Good of the Many, man, don't be so fucking selfish!)
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:53 am

yeah but our healthcare is cheaper than yours. So while we may always be screaming for more money, we still pay less than you.
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