Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

[Coito ergo sum]

Romney's proposal is that working mothers will be afforded assistance so that they can get day care for their kids while they work.

And how exactly is he going to do that? Until I see the actual proposal and figures, it will be no different than it is now. It just sounds good for getting votes as far as I'm concerned.

Fair enough. I hope you apply the same standard to every politician.

Well, he's the only one talking about it, so how can I apply it to anyone else?

I hope you apply it to all similar proposals by other politicians.

He's not the only politician to propose public assistance in one regard or another (without disclosing the cut off of benefits).

[kiki5711]

So, since you don't know the specifics, do you oppose it, pending learning the details?

If you support it, even without the details, then what is different about it?

What's different about it is that it's a healthcare bill. Not child care support. Not every sick person has a child.

you're starting to bore me.

[kiki5711]

He's not the only politician to propose public assistance in one regard or another (without disclosing the cut off of benefits).

Try to stick to one issue at a time to make any sense.

[Coito ergo sum]

He's not the only politician to propose public assistance in one regard or another (without disclosing the cut off of benefits).

Try to stick to one issue at a time to make any sense.

We are sticking to one issue.

Your muddled thinking is difficult to deal with.

[kiki5711]

He's not the only politician to propose public assistance in one regard or another (without disclosing the cut off of benefits).

Try to stick to one issue at a time to make any sense.

We are sticking to one issue.

Your muddled thinking is difficult to deal with.

I a m y o u r f r i e n d, c o i t o, y o u w a n t t o p l a y l e g g o s?

[Coito ergo sum]

He's not the only politician to propose public assistance in one regard or another (without disclosing the cut off of benefits).

Try to stick to one issue at a time to make any sense.

We are sticking to one issue.

Your muddled thinking is difficult to deal with.

I a m y o u r f r i e n d, c o i t o, y o u w a n t t o p l a y l e g g o s?

Lego?

[kiki5711]

Romney calls for a host of tax cuts. But independent analysts say they will worsen the deficit unless offset by deep and politically unpopular spending cuts.

Romney would keep the Bush-era tax cuts, and further reduce all marginal income tax rates by 20 percent. He says he would lower the corporate tax rate, eliminate the estate tax, push a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution and make $500 billion in unspecified domestic discretionary spending cuts in 2016.

He wants wider exploration for energy, including oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, or ANWR.

Such promises draw loud cheers at GOP rallies. But for decades, Republican-run and Democratic-run congresses alike have rejected ANWR drilling, a balanced budget amendment, deep spending cuts and other mainstays of Romney's campaign.

Whether these campaign ideas are called proposals, aspirations or promises, they are easier to talk about than to achieve.

do you think, helping mothers with childcare while they work is part of his "cutting spending" plan?

[Tyrannical]

I would say that ideally, mothers should not have to work.
But a side-effect of allowing women to work has created an economic circumstance where in most cases they are required to work.

[Svartalf]

LOL... the women of the poor classes have always had to work anyway...

[Tyrannical]

LOL... the women of the poor classes have always had to work anyway...

Depends on what we consider work.
Some wealthy women had servants to do everything for them, and I'm not aware that Anne Romney was one of them. Cooking, cleaning, and child rearing is work. It's a shame that the economic situation isn't that a man is able to adequately financially provide leaving the women to do their traditional job.

[Svartalf]

If you think that a millionaire's wife is going to do the house work, cooking etc, and forego hiring help to take care of that... you live in a very strange world
or have evidence that mrs romney is a most unusual person.

and bug off the 'traditional job of women', the concept that women take care of the house and kids and leave the men to bring back the bread without contributing economically is a new one... peasant women always have done their share and more of the work, taking care of the animals and veggie garden, spinning yarn and weaving cloth and making clothes from it (and selling any excedents off)...

Same thing in town... women spinning and weaving and practicing any number of house farmed crafts to improve the household's financial situation has always been a reality, even into Dickensian times... the only women who could afford to 'take care of the house' to the exclusion of other activities have always been the wives of the aristocracy and the wealthy bourgeoisie, which means that to them, it was more managing the servants than actually doing the work.

[Tyrannical]

If you think that a millionaire's wife is going to do the house work, cooking etc, and forego hiring help to take care of that... you live in a very strange world
or have evidence that mrs romney is a most unusual person.

Evidence?
My understanding is that Anne Romney did perform those tasks, at least partly.

and bug off the 'traditional job of women', the concept that women take care of the house and kids and leave the men to bring back the bread without contributing economically is a new one... peasant women always have done their share and more of the work, taking care of the animals and veggie garden, spinning yarn and weaving cloth and making clothes from it (and selling any excedents off)...

Same thing in town... women spinning and weaving and practicing any number of house farmed crafts to improve the household's financial situation has always been a reality, even into Dickensian times... the only women who could afford to 'take care of the house' to the exclusion of other activities have always been the wives of the aristocracy and the wealthy bourgeoisie, which means that to them, it was more managing the servants than actually doing the work.

I didn't invent the concept of "women's work" so don't blame me for it.

[Svartalf]

The women who made buttons or took weaving work while their husbands worked in the mine or mill surely agree with you...

[kiki5711]

Evidence?
My understanding is that Anne Romney did perform those tasks, at least partly.

Evidence? If you were that rich, would you do all the work yourself? I mean really. She'd had to be on her toes 24/7 to keep the house clean/cook and prepare all the meals/care for 5 kids, care for husband (at night), do the dishes, mow the lawn.

Yea, I'm sure she did all that.

[Tyrannical]

Evidence?
My understanding is that Anne Romney did perform those tasks, at least partly.

Evidence? If you were that rich, would you do all the work yourself? I mean really. She'd had to be on her toes 24/7 to keep the house clean/cook and prepare all the meals/care for 5 kids, care for husband (at night), do the dishes, mow the lawn.

Yea, I'm sure she did all that.

If you can name the logical fallacy we might let you off the hook. No promises though.