BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

[Brian Peacock]

So, anyone get the feeling that Boris has presented the EU with something deliberately unworkable simple in order to pin the blame on them?

[rainbow]

So, anyone get the feeling that Boris has presented the EU with something deliberately unworkable simple in order to pin the blame on them?

The correct response from the EU is to say that the proposals are 'interesting', but lack detail.

...such as how the movements of goods between NI and the rest of the UK would be controlled. If under EU regulations then there is no difference to May's backstop, and there will be an effective border between Ni and the resy of the UK. On the other hand if the UK controls it, the Irish Republic would effectively be under a different system to the rest of the EU. Can't see them being to pleased about that.

[JimC]

There used to be a curry house in Hanover Street. It was the pits but dirt cheap. This was in the days of pubs shutting at 10pm.

I like the Mosque Kitchen on Nicholson Square - the one round the back next to the Mosque, not the one on Nicholson St for the tourists. You get 2 quid off it you take your own bowls, cups & cutlery.

Yeah, but you have to promise allegiance to ISIS...

[Scot Dutchy]

So, anyone get the feeling that Boris has presented the EU with something deliberately unworkable simple in order to pin the blame on them?

The correct response from the EU is to say that the proposals are 'interesting', but lack detail.

...such as how the movements of goods between NI and the rest of the UK would be controlled. If under EU regulations then there is no difference to May's backstop, and there will be an effective border between Ni and the resy of the UK. On the other hand if the UK controls it, the Irish Republic would effectively be under a different system to the rest of the EU. Can't see them being to pleased about that.

It is a typical Johnson; all words and no substance. The bog question is simply; can a white van drive over the boder without any control?

[rainbow]

It is a typical Johnson; all words and no substance. The bog question is simply; can a white van drive over the boder without any control?

No problem, but before they reach the next intersection there will be a friendly customs crew, equipped with rubber gloves so they can make an internal inspection.

[rainbow]

So, anyone get the feeling that Boris has presented the EU with something deliberately unworkable simple in order to pin the blame on them?

The correct response from the EU is to say that the proposals are 'interesting', but lack detail.

Outgoing European Council President Donald Tusk tweeted the EU was "open but still unconvinced" about the plan, and would "stand fully behind Ireland".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49917877
Wot I sed.

[rainbow]

What's currently going on? Are they going to force him to go to Brussels and get an extention?

His plan is to get one of his mates in Europe to say they will not grant an extension. He will then say the EU is obstructing, and so he can't ask for an extension.

Remember you heard it here first.

We will make clear privately and publicly that countries which oppose delay will go the front of the queue for future cooperation — cooperation on things both within and outside EU competences. Those who support delay will go to the bottom of the queue. [This source also made clear that defence and security cooperation will inevitably be affected if the EU tries to keep Britain in against the will of its government] Supporting delay will be seen by this government as hostile interference in domestic politics, and over half of the public will agree with us.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... -live-news

...an admission that they've already tried to get someone to veto the extension.

[Brian Peacock]

It's interesting that they're promoting two mutually incompatible approaches: first saying that they're looking for a deal and then trying to get an EU country to veto an extension in order to get a no-deal Brexit.

[rainbow]

But there is a problem with this threat. Any Brexit extension would have to be agreed unanimously by the EU27, as well as by the UK, and if all 27 were at the back of the queue, they would effectively all also be at the front of the queue too.

This paragraph suggests that No 10 thinks its best hope of sidestepping the Benn Act is to get a country like Hungary to veto a Brexit extension. But Hungary and Poland (the other country targeted by Brexiters) have both signalled they are not interested.

Ibid

[Rum]

Well they are getting what they wanted. What actually happens on 1st Nov is anyone’s guess. I can’t imagine half the myriad minor regulations will have been thought through.

And the men of violence will be polishing their weapons.

[Scot Dutchy]

The Brexiteers wanted it all a long. Johnson has a deal with Trump. He should be up for treason.

[Rum]

The Brexiteers wanted it all a long. Johnson has a deal with Trump. He should be up for treason.

Where’s your evidence for this?

[Scot Dutchy]

Read all the articles. It is obvious. Just who is he doing it for? Not the people of Britain. It is for the 1% or cant you see that? Did he really give up his American citizenship? Welcome to the 51st. state.

[Rum]

That’s not evidence just confirmation bias.

[laklak]

Boris renounces his renouncement of U.S. citizenship, SCOTUS rules he's a natural born citizen. Trump/Johnson 2020. They win, of course, but the Dems vote impeachment. Trump resigns, Boris pardons him, and the Queen is our new head of state. We get crumpets and Marmite, you get pickups and AR-15s. It's a win-win. Rule Ameritania!

We'll build a bridge, with a stop over in Greenland, once we buy it.