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Post by Chauncey Gardner » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:49 pm

Rumertron wrote:from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm..I tend to agree.
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hmmm....after watching a few bits of it again...I'm not so sure if he's got cause to complain.

It was undoubtedly an ambush and there is a question mark over the definition of impartiality in the BBC handbook, but, most politicians would cut off their right hand if they were offered almost 1 full hour to talk about themselves in front of 8 million people.

Which is what Griffin essentially got.

EVERY question was related to BNP policy apart from one which was about Stephen Gateley.

It is true that the other panellists were hostile....and it is true that he was cut-off whenever he said something ridiculous....which was often...but is it wrong to blame the BBC because he couldn't articulate his party policy in a way that didn't offend, upset and in some cases shock the audience? Such as his gem about the a klu klux klan being non-violent...which left Bonnie Greer gobsmacked and speechless for a moment.

As for the location..would his comments have been less ridiculous and shocking if QT was held in Burnley?

I think not.

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Post by Animavore » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:39 pm

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Post by Trolldor » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:48 pm

People who don't agree with them won't vote for them. People who do, will. Nobody changes their minds on something like this.
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Post by Pappa » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:19 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:People who don't agree with them won't vote for them. People who do, will. Nobody changes their minds on something like this.
They do. There are a lot of floating voters who can be swayed towards these kinds of parties when they are dissatisfied with mainstream parties.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:32 pm

Okay, let's put this upside the Beerhall Putsch. (Or rather the trial after.) Same importance, more importance, or less importance? (Crystal ball gazing required.)
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Post by Pappa » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:41 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Okay, let's put this upside the Beerhall Putsch. (Or rather the trial after.) Same importance, more importance, or less importance? (Crystal ball gazing required.)
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Post by Rum » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:00 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm

BNP support in poll sparks anger

Peter Hain says his fears have been proved right after a poll suggested support for the BNP has risen after Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time. A YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph suggests 22% of people questioned would "seriously consider" voting BNP.

The Welsh secretary said: "The BBC has handed the BNP the gift of the century on a plate and now we see the consequences. I'm very angry."

The show was watched by a record eight million people on Thursday.The opinion poll carried out after Mr Griffin's appearance found 22% of voters would consider voting BNP in a future local, general or European election.

Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the party under any circumstances, with the rest unsure.

When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago.However, more than half of those polled said they agreed or thought the party had a point in speaking up for the interests of indigenous, white British people.

The poll did not ask whether their views were affected as a result of Mr Griffin's appearance on Question Time.

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Re: The BNP may appear on BBC's Question Time

Post by klr » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:52 am

Rumertron wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm

BNP support in poll sparks anger

Peter Hain says his fears have been proved right after a poll suggested support for the BNP has risen after Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time. A YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph suggests 22% of people questioned would "seriously consider" voting BNP.

The Welsh secretary said: "The BBC has handed the BNP the gift of the century on a plate and now we see the consequences. I'm very angry."

The show was watched by a record eight million people on Thursday.The opinion poll carried out after Mr Griffin's appearance found 22% of voters would consider voting BNP in a future local, general or European election.

Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the party under any circumstances, with the rest unsure.

When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago.However, more than half of those polled said they agreed or thought the party had a point in speaking up for the interests of indigenous, white British people.

The poll did not ask whether their views were affected as a result of Mr Griffin's appearance on Question Time.
Knee-jerk reaction. Ask them again in a few weeks or months time. :ddpan:
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Post by Chauncey Gardner » Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:09 am

Rumertron wrote:BNP support in poll sparks anger Peter Hain says his fears have been proved right after a poll suggested support for the BNP has risen after Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time. A YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph suggests 22% of people questioned would "seriously consider" voting BNP. The Welsh secretary said: "The BBC has handed the BNP the gift of the century on a plate and now we see the consequences. I'm very angry." The show was watched by a record eight million people on Thursday.The opinion poll carried out after Mr Griffin's appearance found 22% of voters would consider voting BNP in a future local, general or European election. Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the party under any circumstances, with the rest unsure....when asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago.However, more than half of those polled said they agreed or thought the party had a point in speaking up for the interests of indigenous, white British people. The poll did not ask whether their views were affected as a result of Mr Griffin's appearance on Question Time.
I'm not quibbling with the youGov poll...although, it's no secret that friends of the tories, the telegraph included, are tripping over each other in the rush to blame labout for the rise of the bnp.....but what I would argue that everyone is ignoring the other effect of Question Time..

Allow me to explain.

Many, mostly tories, are running around screaming about the so called "rise of the bnp". If you look at how many votes the BNP got in the recent eu elections...there wasn't much of a "rise" in support. In fact in some areas, there was a drop. the reason they won 2 seats was because OTHER VOTERS DIDN'T BOTHER VOTING. Apathy was high and the turnout very low.

The people who support the BNP are small-minded people probably with racist tendencies...question time will not have swayed those voters. But what it will have swayed is all those voters who didn't bother voting in the recent EU elections...they will make DAMN SURE that they will COME OUT AND VOTE in the next council and parliamentary elections to ENSURE THE BNP DON'T GET ANY SEATS.

In other words, the real value of Question Time is that it will energise people apathetic about politics and strike fear into them..i.e. apathy leads to people like nick griffin getting elected.

So, as far as I am concerned, they should give Griffin another go...and another go...and another go...at in-depth interviews/debates, like he demanded yesterday on sky news. Slap him in a room with paxman for an hour, alone...put him on a stage 1-to-1 with jack straw....

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Re: The BNP may appear on BBC's Question Time

Post by Pappa » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:56 am

klr wrote:
Rumertron wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm

BNP support in poll sparks anger

Peter Hain says his fears have been proved right after a poll suggested support for the BNP has risen after Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time. A YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph suggests 22% of people questioned would "seriously consider" voting BNP.

The Welsh secretary said: "The BBC has handed the BNP the gift of the century on a plate and now we see the consequences. I'm very angry."

The show was watched by a record eight million people on Thursday.The opinion poll carried out after Mr Griffin's appearance found 22% of voters would consider voting BNP in a future local, general or European election.

Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the party under any circumstances, with the rest unsure.

When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago.However, more than half of those polled said they agreed or thought the party had a point in speaking up for the interests of indigenous, white British people.

The poll did not ask whether their views were affected as a result of Mr Griffin's appearance on Question Time.
Knee-jerk reaction. Ask them again in a few weeks or months time. :ddpan:
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Also.... can anyone actually imagine the BNP ever getting a significant share of the vote? I can't, not unless we have some kind of apocalypse.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:58 am

Pappa wrote:Also.... can anyone actually imagine the BNP ever getting a significant share of the vote? I can't, not unless we have some kind of apocalypse.
Adolf Hitler never received a majority of the vote in any free election. His party's best showing was a bit less than 30%, IIRC. Kevin?
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Post by Pappa » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:08 am

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Pappa wrote:Also.... can anyone actually imagine the BNP ever getting a significant share of the vote? I can't, not unless we have some kind of apocalypse.
Adolf Hitler never received a majority of the vote in any free election. His party's best showing was a bit less than 30%, IIRC. Kevin?
No but, not only would the BNP never get that close anyway, I'm pretty sure people would remember the history too much to let it repeat. As much as I hate the "Anti-Nazi League" (as left-wing fascists) I am glad they remind everyone that the BNP are racist fascist scum.
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