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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by Gallstones » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:22 pm

Ronja wrote:
Gallstones wrote: As consequence to pursuing his interests he attended training, joined the groups, and adopted an attitude of informed responsibility. He even lectures me--the upstart little shit.
They do that, don't they... :hehe:
His greater knowledge is an asset and I don't begrudge consulting him. ;)
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by Gallstones » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:46 pm

Seth, someone needs to take your persona out behind the wood shed and give it a
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
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Re: Parenting with a .45

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Gallstones wrote:Seth, someone needs to take your persona out behind the wood shed and give it a
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by Gallstones » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:02 pm

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Gallstones wrote:Seth, someone needs to take your persona out behind the wood shed and give it a
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
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I knew it!
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Re: Parenting with a .45

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Gallstones wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Gallstones wrote:Seth, someone needs to take your persona out behind the wood shed and give it a
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by hadespussercats » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:17 pm

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hadespussercats wrote:This is the trouble with giving your kids all the things you never had-- you expect them to feel grateful, instead of just thinking that's the way it's always been. But for the child, it is the way it's always been.
I like this insight. Thank you. :)
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by MrJonno » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Forget in Seth world there are law abiding citizens and a completely different species called criminals also known as bad guys.

Bullshit of course all human beings are violent animals that are sometimes have their urges controlled by civilization but when that fails you control the tools they can use for their violence.

Also love the way 'gangs' are other people, gangs are lawyers, politicans, policemen, nurses, solders and the occassional member of the royal family getting completely wasted and into trouble
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by Ronja » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:44 pm

MrJonno wrote:Forget in Seth world there are law abiding citizens and a completely different species called criminals also known as bad guys.

Bullshit of course all human beings are violent animals that are sometimes have their urges controlled by civilization but when that fails you control the tools they can use for their violence.
Er... I would read some Franz De Waal if I were you. Especially "The Ape and the Sushi Master" pretty much demolishes the myth of "nature red in tooth and claw."
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by MrJonno » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:14 pm

Ronja wrote:
MrJonno wrote:Forget in Seth world there are law abiding citizens and a completely different species called criminals also known as bad guys.

Bullshit of course all human beings are violent animals that are sometimes have their urges controlled by civilization but when that fails you control the tools they can use for their violence.
Er... I would read some Franz De Waal if I were you. Especially "The Ape and the Sushi Master" pretty much demolishes the myth of "nature red in tooth and claw."
Cooperation is also an important part of being any 'higher' animal but even chimps and apes while they may form strong social groups will still get pissed off and rip the throat out of a rival
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by tattuchu » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:05 pm

MrJonno wrote:Forget in Seth world there are law abiding citizens and a completely different species called criminals also known as bad guys.

Bullshit of course all human beings are violent animals that are sometimes have their urges controlled by civilization but when that fails you control the tools they can use for their violence.

Also love the way 'gangs' are other people, gangs are lawyers, politicans, policemen, nurses, solders and the occassional member of the royal family getting completely wasted and into trouble
I've said similar. As if there are law-abiding citizens and criminals, and ne'er the 'twain shall meet, right? Fuck, put a gun in my hand and, with my temper, I can see myself becoming a criminal right quick. That's why I choose not to carry a gun. Seth's response to this was that I was a psychopath and that I should be locked up. For not carrying a gun, knowing my own limitations, and exercising caution accordingly, I should be locked up and the key thrown away :ddpan:
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by MrJonno » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:24 pm

Anyone can snap, lose your job come home with find your wife in bed with someone else or even just being unlucky genetically, we are all capable of acts of great evil
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by tattuchu » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:31 pm

MrJonno wrote:Anyone can snap, lose your job come home with find your wife in bed with someone else or even just being unlucky genetically, we are all capable of acts of great evil
And a gun makes it ridiculously easy to do it. Whereas, if I don't have a gun, I get mad, then I calm down, then I get over it, and no one is the worse for wear. If, however, I have an, oh, I dunno, INSTRUMENT OF FUCKING DEATH in my hand, the outcome may very well be different.
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:39 pm

tattuchu wrote:
MrJonno wrote:Anyone can snap, lose your job come home with find your wife in bed with someone else or even just being unlucky genetically, we are all capable of acts of great evil
And a gun makes it ridiculously easy to do it. Whereas, if I don't have a gun, I get mad, then I calm down, then I get over it, and no one is the worse for wear. If, however, I have an, oh, I dunno, INSTRUMENT OF FUCKING DEATH in my hand, the outcome may very well be different.
Tat, I remember speaking with a Navy corpsman after a little award ceremony in Sicily. He had been treating wounded Marines in a bomb crater when four VC dove into it. He killed them all. And he didn't even remember doing it. He had eyewitness statements from several of the Marines. He was the INSTRUMENT OF FUCKING DEATH, he killed them all with his bare hands. He got a very pretty blue ribbon with stars on it for that.
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Re: Parenting with a .45

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:50 pm

Gun, chainsaw, keg-barrel, crowbar, long fall from a height ... what exactly are we going to do away with here?

Is it not easier to teach people that guns are dangerous in the wrong hands, and how to avoid being those wrong hands?
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