Tolerate the Christian right ... WHY ?

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Blamed for derailing my own fucking thread .....And I I didn't ... Meh




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[Schneibster]

[Seth]

You wrote this very weird stuff :

And several novels have been written about the evolution of humans in low-gee environments. There's no reason to believe that such adaptations are not possible.

And I responded that it wouldn't be human.
You have SUCH a short memory.

Define "human."

[Cormac]

I wish my voter registration card didn't say Democrat on it. In Maryland, only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary election (maybe registered Inpedependents can too, I dunno - but I registered myself a Democrat so I could vote for Obama over Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago).

I'd love to show up and vote for Perry or Bachmann; help make sure one of them gets the nomination instead of Romney. In the general election Romney's the candidate Obama needs to fear the most, especially if the economy gets worse or if it still feels like it's running in neutral gear a year or so from now. Those other two would be squashed like roadkill by the Obama campaign.

This was actually an idea Rush Limbaugh had three years ago. In those states with open primaries, he urged his listeners to go out and vote for Hillary Clinton, because he figured (correctly, IMO) that she stood less of a chance against John McCain than Obama did. Not enough of his listeners bothered.

Sorry - are you saying that your voting cards identify your party of preference? How does that sit with a secret ballot?

[Schneibster]

Sorry - are you saying that your voting cards identify your party of preference? How does that sit with a secret ballot?

It's only important in the primary, when we pick the person from our party (or anyway the one we're registered as, heh heh heh) who will run in the general election. In the general election, we can vote for whoever we want no matter their party, winner take all. It is not a foregone conclusion we will vote for our party's candidate, though it is somewhat rare not to.

[Cormac]

I wish my voter registration card didn't say Democrat on it. In Maryland, only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary election (maybe registered Inpedependents can too, I dunno - but I registered myself a Democrat so I could vote for Obama over Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago).

I'd love to show up and vote for Perry or Bachmann; help make sure one of them gets the nomination instead of Romney. In the general election Romney's the candidate Obama needs to fear the most, especially if the economy gets worse or if it still feels like it's running in neutral gear a year or so from now. Those other two would be squashed like roadkill by the Obama campaign.

This was actually an idea Rush Limbaugh had three years ago. In those states with open primaries, he urged his listeners to go out and vote for Hillary Clinton, because he figured (correctly, IMO) that she stood less of a chance against John McCain than Obama did. Not enough of his listeners bothered.

WTF? Your political affiliation is on your voting card? Is this compulsory or is it like being a member of a political party in the UK. Even so it defeats the object of a secret ballot if your card proclaims the way you are expected to vote.

It's not compulsory; I could simply register myself as a voter with no affiliation at all. I only registered as a Democrat in order to vote in the Democratic primary elections three years ago. In the general election, I can vote for anyone of any party.

This has probably already been answered in this thread, but why on earth are elections within the Democratic Party run using public voting registration, rather than party membership.

DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

[Svartalf]

Sorry - are you saying that your voting cards identify your party of preference? How does that sit with a secret ballot?

It's only important in the primary, when we pick the person from our party (or anyway the one we're registered as, heh heh heh) who will run in the general election. In the general election, we can vote for whoever we want no matter their party, winner take all. It is not a foregone conclusion we will vote for our party's candidate, though it is somewhat rare not to.

rare? How many Registered Republicans do you guess were so disgusted at the Mccain/palin troika that they ended up voting Obama?
and I'll ask the same as Cormac, Do your parties have actual membership, or is it confused with voter registration?

[Cormac]

Yes it does. By believing in Jehovah or Jesus one believes that there is a Ultimate Authority who is in charge of everything. Oh they might pretend to support the idea of democracy but they would turn in a second given a charismatic political leader with some cash moxy and major media support the U.S. would be burning witches again within the fortnight.

Hyperbolic, mendacious nonsense.

How long did it take to start killing jews in Germany or homosexuals in Uganda ? the comment was hyperbolic but nonsense ? after all You are still using the rhetoric of the anti communist witch hunts .... hyperbolic much ?

ooops, posted to wrong thread in error!

[Seth]

I wish my voter registration card didn't say Democrat on it. In Maryland, only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary election (maybe registered Inpedependents can too, I dunno - but I registered myself a Democrat so I could vote for Obama over Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago).

I'd love to show up and vote for Perry or Bachmann; help make sure one of them gets the nomination instead of Romney. In the general election Romney's the candidate Obama needs to fear the most, especially if the economy gets worse or if it still feels like it's running in neutral gear a year or so from now. Those other two would be squashed like roadkill by the Obama campaign.

This was actually an idea Rush Limbaugh had three years ago. In those states with open primaries, he urged his listeners to go out and vote for Hillary Clinton, because he figured (correctly, IMO) that she stood less of a chance against John McCain than Obama did. Not enough of his listeners bothered.

WTF? Your political affiliation is on your voting card? Is this compulsory or is it like being a member of a political party in the UK. Even so it defeats the object of a secret ballot if your card proclaims the way you are expected to vote.

It's not compulsory; I could simply register myself as a voter with no affiliation at all. I only registered as a Democrat in order to vote in the Democratic primary elections three years ago. In the general election, I can vote for anyone of any party.

This has probably already been answered in this thread, but why on earth are elections within the Democratic Party run using public voting registration, rather than party membership.

DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

Some state laws require it, to prevent the Democratic party from disenfranchising those who wish to participate in the primary process. Colorado, for example, allows you to register OR CHANGE your party affiliation right up to the day of the Primary election. Lots of Republicans signed up as Democrats just prior to this last election so they could vote for Hillary as the candidate, knowing that she was a better choice than Obama. Didn't quite work out, but they tried.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You make that sound almost believable, Seth.

[mistermack]

Define "human."

Oh for fuck's sake !!! Is this a primary school?
Do you need someone to blow your nose and wipe your ass as well?
I'm not your mother.

[JimC]

Sorry - are you saying that your voting cards identify your party of preference? How does that sit with a secret ballot?

It's only important in the primary, when we pick the person from our party (or anyway the one we're registered as, heh heh heh) who will run in the general election. In the general election, we can vote for whoever we want no matter their party, winner take all. It is not a foregone conclusion we will vote for our party's candidate, though it is somewhat rare not to.

rare? How many Registered Republicans do you guess were so disgusted at the Mccain/palin troika that they ended up voting Obama?
and I'll ask the same as Cormac, Do your parties have actual membership, or is it confused with voter registration?

An interesting contrast with Oz. The political parties have local branches, one per electorate, whose members elect the party candidate for the next election (called preselection). Mind you, the central party office usually tries to stick its oar in, so pre-selection fights can get messy...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Define "human."

Oh for fuck's sake !!! Is this a primary school?
Do you need someone to blow your nose and wipe your ass as well?
I'm not your mother.

If this were a HP novel, Seth would be Xenophilius Lovegood.

[Schneibster]

Sorry - are you saying that your voting cards identify your party of preference? How does that sit with a secret ballot?

It's only important in the primary, when we pick the person from our party (or anyway the one we're registered as, heh heh heh) who will run in the general election. In the general election, we can vote for whoever we want no matter their party, winner take all. It is not a foregone conclusion we will vote for our party's candidate, though it is somewhat rare not to.

rare? How many Registered Republicans do you guess were so disgusted at the Mccain/palin troika that they ended up voting Obama?

Too lazy to look it up, certainly less than 10%. Keep in mind that there are more than just two parties, not to mention the possibility of registering Independent, which the rules vary for from state to state. In general the independents decide most elections.

and I'll ask the same as Cormac, Do your parties have actual membership, or is it confused with voter registration?

I don't know what "party membership" means, apparently. Tell me more so I can answer.

[Seth]

Define "human."

Oh for fuck's sake !!! Is this a primary school?
Do you need someone to blow your nose and wipe your ass as well?
I'm not your mother.

Sorry, if you're going to claim that adaptations or genetic changes that might occur that would allow humans to live in zero-gee environments makes them "not human," you're going to have to first define what you mean by "human" if you expect your asinine claim to survive.

The point being, mom, that you're evidently ignorant of the nature of evolution and how organisms adapt to new environments. There's absolutely nothing in science that precludes humans from evolving and adapting to zero-gee, high-rad environments.

Here endeth the lesson. Now go wipe your own ass.