Scum

[Feck]

..and they want to join the EC?

Turkey is in ASIA They can fuck off !genocidal scum Intolerant moslem police states are not wanted in Europe

[Rum]

..and they want to join the EC?

Turkey is in ASIA They can fuck off !genocidal scum Intolerant moslem police states are not wanted in Europe

I think that Europe would like a 'middle eastern' country to be 'Europeanised'. A buffer perhaps. They have a long way to go though.

[Tails Turrosaki]

Don't forget, people; this is a different culture.

When the Europeans came over to South America, they found sacrifices to be immoral and horrid. The Southern Americans found it normal and actually an honor to be sacrificed.

Not saying it's an honor to be buried alive for talking to boys... But to some people, these kinda things may be normal. Unusual, but normal. They might find it barbaric for us to be talking to opposite genders.

Just sayin'. It is wrong in my opinion, just to clarify.

[Feck]

If you are going to consider that a "culture " can have values that supersede common human values then you might have to admit that no morality any of us hold can be applied to any other individuals ....Ok hang on a minute I'm digging a hole for you :twisted:

[Tails Turrosaki]

If you are going to consider that a "culture " can have values that supersede common human values then you might have to admit that no morality any of us hold can be applied to any other individuals ....Ok hang on a minute I'm digging a hole for you :twisted:

Not really saying that. I'm basically implying that they think this is right. What some people consider wrong others consider right.
Notice that there's never a "they know this is right" or "they know this is wrong". It's always "think", which is exactly the case. We think it.

Not sure how I can correctly explain this...

[Trolldor]

Morality is relative and nobody is any more right than anyone else. As an objective value, human life is worthless.
I'm a nihilist, that's all pretty much true, but I'm not an emotionless moron. These people are controlling how other people live, creating superficial values which supercede the ability of an individual to generate and formulate their own values. If you believe that morality is a subjective creation, then you have to accept the absurdity of anyone imposing that morality on an unwilling populous.

[Tails Turrosaki]

I wouldn't call myself a "nihilist", but I do think that humans need to calm down on the moral behavior.
I'm a humanist who rejects the value of human life. I only like the human body and the beauty of it and such; it's a wonderful piece of art created by millions and millions of years of evolution that was guided by the nature around us.

Don't I sound sickening? Anyways, we need to tone down on the moral values and the human values and sentimental values and all that shit. Morals exist. It's not an illusion. It's just that some morals are fake and meaningless, mainly indoctrinated into us.

That is all.

[Hermit]

The issue is not the regulation of violence, or that the girl was buried alive, it is that the world is content to let it happen. Entire nations will impose a trade embargo on nations for a change in Government, but when it comes to the suffering of its citizens, well that's none of their business is it? They dare not draw he entire wrath by condemning an act as it is.

Realpolitik. "They may be bastards, but at least they are our bastards", and don't even mention the oil. The support for dictators and otherwise cruel regimes for strategic reasons, and the overthrow of democratically elected governments is not exactly a rarity. The USA is quite prominent in that regard, but I would not put this down to any alleged 'evilness' of Americans. Other governments do whatever they can as well. They just have less scope to do what they want. I am particularly annoyed by China's support for blasphemy laws in the UN. Nothing at all to do with principle. It just wants to get a better opportunity to obtain a greater economic foothold in Islamic countries. If that means a few more thousand stonings of women and executions of infidels because no pressure is brought to bear on the relevant countries, so be it.

Fuck!

[JimC]

TT wrote:

The Southern Americans found it normal and actually an honor to be sacrificed.

The priests found it to be normal.

The people who were sacrificed were usually drugged, bound or brought screaming to the altar.

Yet another example of the toxic quality of religions...

The myth of the noble savage has a lot to answer for...

[Elessarina]

Not really saying that. I'm basically implying that they think this is right. What some people consider wrong others consider right.
Notice that there's never a "they know this is right" or "they know this is wrong". It's always "think", which is exactly the case. We think it.

Not sure how I can correctly explain this...

We understand what you're getting at.. it's like people getting angry that they eat dog in Korea,. The problem with this act though is that it is fundamentally based around religious teachings and is yet another example of where religious indoctrination overrides common sense and human decency. The religious often tell us they get their morals from religion and ask where atheists get their morals from or accuse us of having no morals whatsoever..and then do something like this..

[Clinton Huxley]

..and they want to join the EC?

Turkey is in ASIA They can fuck off !genocidal scum Intolerant moslem police states are not wanted in Europe

I think that Europe would like a 'middle eastern' country to be 'Europeanised'. A buffer perhaps. They have a long way to go though.

Apparently, Europe will have no choice but to let Turkey join the EU - we aren't having enough children to support our ever-ageing population.

The buggers will have to learn to behave first though.

[Chinaski]

Sorry, but isn't Adiyaman mostly a Christian province? Or am I confusing it with a different one?

[Elessarina]

Sorry, but isn't Adiyaman mostly a Christian province? Or am I confusing it with a different one?

Regradless I think the implication is that it was a muslim honour killing

[Chinaski]

Sorry, but isn't Adiyaman mostly a Christian province? Or am I confusing it with a different one?

Regradless I think the implication is that it was a muslim honour killing

Or is it possible that honour killings have permeated the Christian mentality in a similar cultural context.

[Hermit]

Sorry, but isn't Adiyaman mostly a Christian province? Or am I confusing it with a different one?

Regradless I think the implication is that it was a muslim honour killing

Or is it possible that honour killings have permeated the Christian mentality in a similar cultural context.

Something like the 'crimes of passion' that still were prevalent, and legally distinct from other forms of murder, in Sicily during the last century, where husbands would blow their wives' brains out with a shotgun for (allegedly) having an affair, and went unpunished? In France asimilar category, crime passionnel, where that particular type of murder was punished with two years' of gaol or less, was not struck off the books until the 1970s.

Having said that, "honour killings" seem to be a lot more prevalent among Muslims and Hindus than in any other cultures.