The BREXIT Good News Thread

[mistermack]

Where's that then? Heard of Londanistan, but London is something out the history books.

It's the same good old London Town. Where people eat fish curry and saag aloo out of newspapers, don't you know, my old leg-before-wicket mate?

[Rum]

We all know the famous quote about patriotism..

It is raising its ugly head again and it will do us all in if we aren't careful.

Patriotism is a backward step and in a world that requires more and greater cooperation it splits peoples apart and makes for a far more dangerous world..

Incidentally the most popular selling car in the UK is the Ford Fiesta. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/indu ... 93-country

[mistermack]

Only one car, the Dacia Sandero, in France’s top ten last year wasn’t from France, but even then, Dacia is Renault-owned.

Amazing.

[Rum]

Only one car, the Dacia Sandero, in France’s top ten last year wasn’t from France, but even then, Dacia is Renault-owned.

Amazing.

More fool them if that is the case.

[Scot Dutchy]

What is the fascination for cars? Does it matter anymore? More a pain in the arse these days.

Here is something to laugh about:

EU lawmakers give tentative nod to Brexit clearing law that could clobber Britain

May does not like it. That's a laugh for a start.

[Hermit]

Maybe the Brits will finally get some old-fashioned patriotism going, but I doubt it.

If you go to France, you see French cars everywhere. If you go to Germany, you see German cars everywhere.
If you go to Britain, you also see French and German cars everywhere.

Considering the quality of British cars (and motorbikes for that matter), that comes as a surprise to nobody. Even the bottom of the barrel car maker, Kia, was forced to stop installing Rover engines in its vehicles because the motors turned out to be sale stoppers once the reactions of first few thousand buyers became known. Considering the number of Rover engines that struggled to get past the 50,000 kilometre mark before breaking comprehensively, Kia's options were to use different engines or stop selling cars.

[Scot Dutchy]

Did the UK ever make good quality popular cars? I remember the BMC and Ford crap. When you look back it was easily to see why car accidents then were always fairly serious and dont talk about rust.

[mistermack]

Maybe the Brits will finally get some old-fashioned patriotism going, but I doubt it.

If you go to France, you see French cars everywhere. If you go to Germany, you see German cars everywhere.
If you go to Britain, you also see French and German cars everywhere.

Considering the quality of British cars (and motorbikes for that matter), that comes as a surprise to nobody. Even the bottom of the barrel car maker, Kia, was forced to stop installing Rover engines in its vehicles because the motors turned out to be sale stoppers once the reactions of first few thousand buyers became known. Considering the number of Rover engines that struggled to get past the 50,000 kilometre mark before breaking comprehensively, Kia's options were to use different engines or stop selling cars.

What Rover engines?
I've had lots of Rovers, and they were all brilliant cars.
BMW owned Rover and makes the mini in Oxford, which is a successful car.
They sold the rest of it to an asset stripper, and then the Chinese got it. Fuck knows what engines you are talking about.
And I have two Triumph bikes, and have friends who have put well over 100,000 miles on them, so you are talking bollocks.

[rainbow]

Did the UK ever make good quality popular cars? I remember the BMC and Ford crap. When you look back it was easily to see why car accidents then were always fairly serious and dont talk about rust.

The Mini (the old one) was a hoot. I'm sure they could find the old plans and start making them again.

[Clinton Huxley]

France made 2 million cars last year, UK 1.8 million. UK exported more cars than France, by value.

So...

Once free of EU straight-jacket, we are free to export more cars to Tuvalu and the Cocos Islands. Huzzah!

[Scot Dutchy]

The Mini is made here as well. It will be where the Mini works in Oxford will be moved to. One of the highest productivity in the EU.

[Scot Dutchy]

Did the UK ever make good quality popular cars? I remember the BMC and Ford crap. When you look back it was easily to see why car accidents then were always fairly serious and dont talk about rust.

The Mini (the old one) was a hoot. I'm sure they could find the old plans and start making them again.

It would not pass the EU safety requirements. Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh.........

[mistermack]

France made 2 million cars last year, UK 1.8 million. UK exported more cars than France, by value.

So...

Once free of EU straight-jacket, we are free to export more cars to Tuvalu and the Cocos Islands. Huzzah!

Since the French buy French-made cars in such numbers, it's not surprising that we exported more.
The French didn't have many of their own cars left over to export. They bought them all themselves.

[Rum]

The Mini is made here as well. It will be where the Mini works in Oxford will be moved to. One of the highest productivity in the EU.

Quite so. This is why taking a 'patriotic' view of this is idiotic. Most car manufacturers are in effect multi-national companies even if their HQ is based in a particular country. Parts are made all over the world and shipped to where they are needed - I suspect many very similar parts are made by smaller companies to fit a variety of brands too.

Patriotism, it seems, as ever, divides and sows discord.

[Hermit]

And I have two Triumph bikes, and have friends who have put well over 100,000 miles on them, so you are talking bollocks.

Thanks for the laugh. The saying "if it doesn't leak oil, it isn't a genuine Triumph (or the badge-engineered Norton, for that matter)" is a common joke making the rounds of the owners of those bikes.

They were probably good bikes in 1902 when the German born founder of the Triumph Cycle Company, Siegfried Bettmann, started making them, but he died in 1951, whereupon Triumph was sold to BSA. Both went broke in 1972, and after it was resurrected, Triumph went broke again in 1983. Land speed records and stuff like that notwithstanding, Triumph is not a shining example of either the design point of view, nor a success in the market place. In regard to the former, you get a Ducati, and for the latter the Japanese have been riding circles around it for decades.