General Election UK, June 8th...

[PsychoSerenity]

I hope you'll express your feelings at the ballot box then PS.

BTW, how ya diddlin'?

Oh certainly, but I'm more interested in the local elections really, as there's an actual chance to make a difference. For parliament I've got an untrustworthy centrist in a safe seat.

I'm just fed up with it all. Rather overworked lately so want to take some time focusing on positives in my life. Just got to accept that other than voting, I don't have the energy to do anything about it right now, and let it go.

[DaveDodo007]

Seriously, May has done this move because labour is at lowest ebb and she's sure it will give her a full term to negociate Brexit and adjust to the changes.

I'm actually against the leading party being able to call a snap election (when the odds are in their favour.) I think the five year term limits were a good idea, but the opposition have been calling for this since Cameron resigned so they have nobody to blame but themselves.

[Strontium Dog]

Seriously, May has done this move because labour is at lowest ebb and she's sure it will give her a full term to negociate Brexit and adjust to the changes.

I'm actually against the leading party being able to call a snap election (when the odds are in their favour.) I think the five year term limits were a good idea, but the opposition have been calling for this since Cameron resigned so they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Due to the coalition's Fixed Term Parliaments Act, May cannot just call an election when she wants, she hasn't got enough MPs to do that. She needs Jezza to roll over for her again, and sure enough he'll be doing just that.

[Strontium Dog]

Bookmakers were so wrong with regard to Brexit and Trump...

That can happen when the vote is on a knife edge. And more people did actually vote for Hillary than Trump.

However, Corbyn's Labour are polling at 25%. That would need to be one hell of a margin of error, even with the pro-Labour bias built into the electoral system.

[DaveDodo007]

Seriously, May has done this move because labour is at lowest ebb and she's sure it will give her a full term to negociate Brexit and adjust to the changes.

I'm actually against the leading party being able to call a snap election (when the odds are in their favour.) I think the five year term limits were a good idea, but the opposition have been calling for this since Cameron resigned so they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Due to the coalition's Fixed Term Parliaments Act, May cannot just call an election when she wants, she hasn't got enough MPs to do that. She needs Jezza to roll over for her again, and sure enough he'll be doing just that.

Well it looks like she called their bluff and now the ball is in their court. Basically a win/win for the Tories

[JimC]

So, May wants a great big erection election?

[Brian Peacock]

I hope you'll express your feelings at the ballot box then PS.

BTW, how ya diddlin'?

Oh certainly, but I'm more interested in the local elections really, as there's an actual chance to make a difference. For parliament I've got an untrustworthy centrist in a safe seat.

I'm just fed up with it all. Rather overworked lately so want to take some time focusing on positives in my life. Just got to accept that other than voting, I don't have the energy to do anything about it right now, and let it go.

I know how you feel. Not only all the Trump and Syria/Afghanistan/corruption stuff bunging up the international scene, but Brexit bollocks and whatnot bunging up the national debate while local services implode. It's very tiring; draining.

Mrs May has been canny in a number of ways: not least in the fact that she's basically de-localised the coming local elections, virtually ensuring that they'll be fought against the backdrop of her general election agenda.

[DaveDodo007]

Bookmakers were so wrong with regard to Brexit and Trump...

That can happen when the vote is on a knife edge. And more people did actually vote for Hillary than Trump.

However, Corbyn's Labour are polling at 25%. That would need to be one hell of a margin of error, even with the pro-Labour bias built into the electoral system.

The error only goes one way though as the left are such violent thugs who wont tolerate any dissenting opinion, so that conservative voters keep schtum until they get to the ballet box. Showing once and for all the left are violent emotional animals with no rational thought process and the only way anybody with a brain would vote for them is through intimidation.

Inb4: but the left are such intelligent voters, we just beat up other party voters because they aren't as smart as us.

[DaveDodo007]

So, May wants a great big erection election?

When Labour gets wiped out it will give me a boner.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah. The last thing authoritarians want is descenting opinions bunging up the works eh? You don't think that your firebrand, brutalising rhetoric marks you out as a 'violent emotional animal' too by any chance?

[DaveDodo007]

Yeah. The last thing authoritarians want is descenting opinions bunging up the works eh? You don't think that your firebrand, brutalising rhetoric marks you out as a 'violent emotional animal' too by any chance?

I'm totally for free speech, free expression, freedom of conscience and the right to assembly. Show me were the left holds these values?

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah. The last thing authoritarians want is descenting opinions bunging up the works eh? You don't think that your firebrand, brutalising rhetoric marks you out as a 'violent emotional animal' too by any chance?

I'm totally for free speech, free expression, freedom of conscience and the right to assembly. Show me were the left holds these values?

Its your contention - you show us.

[Brian Peacock]

... Britain does not need, and its people are not demanding, this general election. There is no crisis in the government. Mrs May is not losing votes in the Commons. The House of Lords is not defying her. No legislation is at risk. There is no war and no economic crisis. Brexit is two years away. The press are not clamouring for an early election. The government has not run out of ideas. The opposition is not ready. Mrs May is enough of a Tory to know that British prime ministers who take over in midterm have no constitutional “need” of a personal mandate, especially when they are in as commanding a position as she currently enjoys. Yet now a supposedly five-year parliament will have lasted for just two, solely because Mrs May thinks this is a good time to crush Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party.

As U-turns go, it is an absolute screecher. The smell of rubber on the Downing Street black top is acrid and foul. Judgments about Mrs May will never be quite the same, and deservedly so. She has built her authority by being, and by appearing to be, a leader who plays straight, gets on with the job and takes politics seriously. Like Alice in Wonderland, she said what she meant and meant what she said. Until 11am today that was more or less believable – and to her credit. Politics in general was the stronger for it.

But now there is a new dimension to Mrs May. She is now a party political leader whose words can’t be trusted at face value as much, and for whom politics is, after all, a game. The Tory party may win, if opinion polls can be believed, because Mrs May is trusted far more than Mr Corbyn. But the loss to wider politics ought to be severe. The damage inflicted by the hypocrisy of the apparently sincere is more serious than the damage inflicted by the transparently untrustworthy...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-not-need

[DaveDodo007]

Yeah. The last thing authoritarians want is descenting opinions bunging up the works eh? You don't think that your firebrand, brutalising rhetoric marks you out as a 'violent emotional animal' too by any chance?

I'm totally for free speech, free expression, freedom of conscience and the right to assembly. Show me were the left holds these values?

Its your contention - you show us.

OK the Tories would never be my best shot at freedom and liberty and the values I hold. Though the regressive left and their liberal counter parts are what I fear most in the society I live in. How quick you became authoritarian and Orwellian (how many times must it be said that "1984" is a warning not a manual.) Yet you did it, Mocking free speech as 'freeze peach' what seriously? Are we not allowed to point out that Islam is not compatible with Western values without being called a racist, even though Islam is a fucking religion you dumb cunts. Also fuck feminism unless you cant show me a right men have that women don't, whilst feminism still sucks the cock of Islam (you are not even trying anymore.) You are known as the 'loony left' for a reason' and that is because you are a bunch of loonies, end of. The only value you would have to humanity is that you kill yourself and you are too stupid to do even that. Get fucked and fuck off and it is a pity that there isn't a hell for you retards to go to.

[DaveDodo007]

... Britain does not need, and its people are not demanding, this general election. There is no crisis in the government. Mrs May is not losing votes in the Commons. The House of Lords is not defying her. No legislation is at risk. There is no war and no economic crisis. Brexit is two years away. The press are not clamouring for an early election. The government has not run out of ideas. The opposition is not ready. Mrs May is enough of a Tory to know that British prime ministers who take over in midterm have no constitutional “need” of a personal mandate, especially when they are in as commanding a position as she currently enjoys. Yet now a supposedly five-year parliament will have lasted for just two, solely because Mrs May thinks this is a good time to crush Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party.

As U-turns go, it is an absolute screecher. The smell of rubber on the Downing Street black top is acrid and foul. Judgments about Mrs May will never be quite the same, and deservedly so. She has built her authority by being, and by appearing to be, a leader who plays straight, gets on with the job and takes politics seriously. Like Alice in Wonderland, she said what she meant and meant what she said. Until 11am today that was more or less believable – and to her credit. Politics in general was the stronger for it.

But now there is a new dimension to Mrs May. She is now a party political leader whose words can’t be trusted at face value as much, and for whom politics is, after all, a game. The Tory party may win, if opinion polls can be believed, because Mrs May is trusted far more than Mr Corbyn. But the loss to wider politics ought to be severe. The damage inflicted by the hypocrisy of the apparently sincere is more serious than the damage inflicted by the transparently untrustworthy...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-not-need

Muh guardian, you have to be the most self loathing gimp in all cuckingdom to listen to them. No wonder the left loves them. Sad, pathetic cunts.