Does it matter to you if Trump succeeds?
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump succeeds?
Yeah, his stated intentions in terms of environmental protection are absurdly regressive...
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump succeeds?
What if unicorns fart rainbows?Forty Two wrote:What if, say, Trump manages to significantly increase the US labor participation rate, stem the tide of illegal immigration, increase US domestic industry, production and business, raise US GDP rate of increase to more than 3% per year, repeals and replaces Obamacare with an at least marginally better system, and effectively eradicates ISIS....and nothing significantly negative happens otherwise...
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Trump will do fine, and I think he will especially excel at cutting red tape and down sizing the bureaucracy. Of course Trump doing good is just another way he likes to Troll the leftists 

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Quite. Would you still wash, if water weren't wet?pErvin wrote:What if unicorns fart rainbows?Forty Two wrote:What if, say, Trump manages to significantly increase the US labor participation rate, stem the tide of illegal immigration, increase US domestic industry, production and business, raise US GDP rate of increase to more than 3% per year, repeals and replaces Obamacare with an at least marginally better system, and effectively eradicates ISIS....and nothing significantly negative happens otherwise...
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump succeeds?
I think it's a bit late to be talking about nothing significantly negative happening with regards to Trump. He's already lowered the standard of discourse and is responsible for the surge in fake news websites, like Breitbart. Normalised bigoted behaviour and empowered white supremacists. Increased the number of attacks against minorities and has many more feeling unsafe. Appointed people to positions in departments they seem hell bent on destroying. Has divided a nation like unseen since the Civil War. And has possibly Tweeted his was into a second Cold War.
I can only imagine his time spent as... I can't even bring myself to say it... will be marked by increased activism and protests. His party tries to defund Planned Parenthood; women take to the streets. He tries to halt NASA's earth science division; NASA walk out. He tries to dismantle the EPA; environmentalists retaliate. He tries to go ahead and drill and frack; Native American tribes make a stand. Repubs try to reverse gay marriage laws; every decent person strikes back. And so on...
He is the most unpopular... gah! still can't say it... going into term with a net popularity of 0. More people voted against him than for him and they are not going to make this easy for him. And so they shouldn't. Trump needs to be ended. End of story. He simply cannot be allowed to make all the regressive steps and strip back hard won civil rights and unleash environmental vandalism at a time when we are seeing the beginnings of an extinction event. He just can't.
Fuck Trump. Fuck him.
I can only imagine his time spent as... I can't even bring myself to say it... will be marked by increased activism and protests. His party tries to defund Planned Parenthood; women take to the streets. He tries to halt NASA's earth science division; NASA walk out. He tries to dismantle the EPA; environmentalists retaliate. He tries to go ahead and drill and frack; Native American tribes make a stand. Repubs try to reverse gay marriage laws; every decent person strikes back. And so on...
He is the most unpopular... gah! still can't say it... going into term with a net popularity of 0. More people voted against him than for him and they are not going to make this easy for him. And so they shouldn't. Trump needs to be ended. End of story. He simply cannot be allowed to make all the regressive steps and strip back hard won civil rights and unleash environmental vandalism at a time when we are seeing the beginnings of an extinction event. He just can't.
Fuck Trump. Fuck him.
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He tries to halt NASA's earth science division; NASA walk out.

I bet all those rocket scientists can't wait until Trump boots those global warming pseudo-scientists to the curb. Then NASA can concentrate on what it's supposed to be doing.........
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump succeeds?
Those same rocket scientists put those multi-billion dollar satellites into orbit which measure global temperatures and can measure land and sea ice at the poles to the mm. Also, by studying the Earth, especially in more extreme and inhospitable areas, they have a better idea of what it may be like out in space. If you really think one of the Earth's greatest scientific institutions houses a pseudo-scientific department within its ranks you are as stupid as a Tweet from Trump's Twitter account.Tyrannical wrote:He tries to halt NASA's earth science division; NASA walk out.![]()
I bet all those rocket scientists can't wait until Trump boots those global warming pseudo-scientists to the curb. Then NASA can concentrate on what it's supposed to be doing.........
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump succeeds?
If Trump successfully curbs illegal immigration, and sends back the people he promised he would, then how is he going to grow the economy?
If he had been honest, he would have said that economic growth will slow or go backwards for a while, but it's worth it, because there will be fewer people.
Of course, nobody's mentioned debt. Did he promise to reduce debt? Is he going to grow the economy without borrowing more? Is he going to borrow to pay for the wall?
Maybe THAT'S how he'll keep his promise.
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If he had been honest, he would have said that economic growth will slow or go backwards for a while, but it's worth it, because there will be fewer people.
Of course, nobody's mentioned debt. Did he promise to reduce debt? Is he going to grow the economy without borrowing more? Is he going to borrow to pay for the wall?
Maybe THAT'S how he'll keep his promise.
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Complaining about illegal immigration coming from any white American is incredibly ironic and hypocritical any way.
Also, if he starts slashing taxes for the 1% like he says, then he has even less money to work with, which means having to borrow even more. Or massively cut public spending.
Also, if he starts slashing taxes for the 1% like he says, then he has even less money to work with, which means having to borrow even more. Or massively cut public spending.
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It's very unlikely that many white Americans are there because of illegal immigration. You need to get your facts straight.Animavore wrote:Complaining about illegal immigration coming from any white American is incredibly ironic and hypocritical any way.
Also, if he starts slashing taxes for the 1% like he says, then he has even less money to work with, which means having to borrow even more. Or massively cut public spending.
Whether it was rightful or just is a different story.
The most likely result of Trump's period in office, is that none of his promises get done. And he won't give a fuck. And they'll still vote for him again. In the swing states. Unless the Democrats can find an even bigger dick.
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"‘I will give you everything.’ Here are 282 of Donald Trump’s campaign promises."
It will come as no surprise that there are a number of directly contradictory statements contained in the above. I guess that's one way of covering your ass.
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Sort of like those "you can keep your doctor" and "everyone's premiums will go down" promises, eh? Hope and change, man, as in "I hope somebody will give me some spare change".
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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All the lies of the Obama campaigns are outweighed by the importance of their legislative agenda and the good intentions we know they have.
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