Is democracy too important to leave to the peeps?

[MrJonno]

That might well be the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on here. Have you spoken to any 'out' voters?

Spoken to a few, they normally start going on about Muslims. I generally don't have anything to do with them any more unless I'm paid to do so (including some of the wife's family). I simply no longer consider them to be fellow citizens or in fact fellow rational human beings any more

[Scot Dutchy]

Referenda are the worst way to decide anything. You dont leave it to the electorate to make important decisions that what MP's are paid for. It is never a black and white decision.
Brexit was the worst decision made ever by any PM. The whole question was way over the head of the average voter and was reduced by the Leave campaign to one item; immigration which is in fact a non item in the EU. The repercussions of the vote was not even appreciated by the advocates of the leave campaign who were in fact playing a Bullingdon club game which got completely out hand which they even admitted has much.

Now everyone is walking around with egg on their faces. The Brexit has been kicked into the very long grass. May is hoping it will stay there for at least a good few years while memories go vague and disappear.

That might well be the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on here. Have you spoken to any 'out' voters?

Brexiters lied and lied. Most had not got a clue what they were voting for. It wont happen anyway.

[laklak]

The peeps need to shut the fuck up and listen to their betters, like me. They'll end up voting Trump into office if given half a chance. Or Hillary, name your poison.

[Brian Peacock]

[JimC]

One should not be able to vote unless one can solve quadratic equations and name at least a dozen quality brands of gin...

[Feck]

I've spoken to many Out voters I've not heard one cogent argument from them .

ALL the ones I've talked to have tried to make it clear they aren't racists
"I'm not racist BUT..............."
and failed

[Scot Dutchy]

I've spoken to many Out voters I've not heard one cogent argument from them .

ALL the ones I've talked to have tried to make it clear they aren't racists
"I'm not racist BUT..............."
and failed

Exactly! That were lied and lied to. All the lies were slowly deconstructed by the Remain camp and only the immigration question was left. How can you make such an important decision based on one question. Never mind the political and economic questions or the treaty questions, the trade deals and numerous other important points, no what mattered was the "number of Poles taking their jobs". Jobs they refused to do themselves.

Really really pathetic. A referendum was far too simple an instrument to be used for such a complicated question.

[Rum]

Meeky smells by the way.

[pErvinalia]

Smells arses..

[Scot Dutchy]

Amazed when listening to the BBC on 'PM'. They are following a street in Newcastle which strongly voted leave. The dim wits still dont get it. "Its all them damn forriners" is still their standard reply. Cant someone educate them.

[mistermack]

Most people knew exactly what they were voting for, and got what they wanted. (well, got the vote that they wanted).
They weren't lied to, and if they had been, that wasn't what won the vote.
They've been lied to day in day out, and that's why they voted out.
Successive governments promised to reduce immigration to reasonable levels. They lied and lied and lied.
But the voter wasn't given a viable option. Both major parties lied, and both were increasing immigration.
Then someone made the mistake of giving them a real choice, and they took it.

The vast majority of the lies were on the remain side. "immigration is good for the country".
"immigration will come down on it's own". "most muslims are peace-loving".
If there were any lies on the out side, they were tiny compared to those whoppers.

I'm glad we're leaving. If the pound falls, it's good for our own industry, and bad for Europe's.
We can buy locally cheaper than foreign, and nobody wants to go to Florida any more anyway.

I actually didn't vote, I was evenly balanced at the time. But tomorrow, I'd vote out, if they re-ran it.

[Scot Dutchy]

FFS they fucking did not have a bloody clue. Immigration is only one tiny facet which most of the idiots had no clue about.
Sorry if you want to join them go ahead.

Remember one thing BREXIT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Too many sane people around I am afraid.

[Brian Peacock]

Calm down Scotty - you'll give yourself a thrombosis.

"Ohmmmmm.... Ohmmmmmmm...."

[Rum]

I think a touch of the troll is a good thing now and again. The OP wasn't all that serious of course, despite what the Meeky and his slightly autistic take on things might have suggested. Asperger maybe?

There isn't much of an alternative to democracy other than perhaps benevolent dictatorship. The trouble with that - and many other systems seems to be succession. The transfer of power has dogged 'civilizations' for millennia it seems.

Plebiscite is another matter and it does seem to present issues. Popular responses to all sorts of issues from the death penalty to immigration, cruelty to animals - you name it - would wreak havoc if they were put into practice. My take on it anyway.

[DaveDodo007]

Brexit - an economic train crash of a disaster happening in slow motion - voted for by people who didn't know better. Trump - and ignorant neo-fascist a possibility for the most powerful position in the world.

People in this country would vote for the death penalty tomorrow if MPs let them. They don't because they believe in something non-democratic and liberal. (I use this as an example of the political elite holding back a popular damn rather than opening up a debate on the subject).

Is it time to tell people they can only vote if they can prove they aren't stupid!?

It is those ebil smelly hoi polloi, having their own opinions and whatnot. Down with this sort of thing.