Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit military

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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by JimC » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:32 am

Most of them could beat me to a pulp, I'm sure...
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:38 am

But you could drink them under the table, though! :{D
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Post by JimC » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:39 am

And then I could grope their unresisting bodies! :{D

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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by Hermit » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:42 am

eRv wrote:Fireman carrying your wounded mate in a 50m sprint would probably see the vast majority of women fail.
And the majority of men.
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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by JimC » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:46 am

Hermit wrote:
eRv wrote:Fireman carrying your wounded mate in a 50m sprint would probably see the vast majority of women fail.
And the majority of men.
So, a "vast majority" vs a "majority"...
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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:26 am

Hermit wrote:
eRv wrote:Fireman carrying your wounded mate in a 50m sprint would probably see the vast majority of women fail.
And the majority of men.
Women would have to work much harder than men on strength / endurance training, but it's certainly feasible. Enough time in the gym and they should be fine to at least firemen sprint with other women their approximate body size.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:44 am

I assume you mean "men their approximate body size"...

A mate of mine from a ski season in the snow about 20 years ago had a girlfriend who was allegedly the first female commando in the Australian Army. I dunno how that worked, as I don't think Australia has females in infantry roles. Perhaps she was an explosives expert and didn't wind up in close combat with enemies? :dunno:
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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:07 pm

eRv wrote:Strength might be the one that does them in. Fireman carrying your wounded mate in a 50m sprint would probably see the vast majority of women fail.
Well apparently the killer would be the "carrying of a 25kilo pack 8 miles in 2 hours". Typical limy talk mixing metric and imperial. That's 12,8 kms and that is going some.
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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:15 pm

eRv wrote:I assume you mean "men their approximate body size"...

A mate of mine from a ski season in the snow about 20 years ago had a girlfriend who was allegedly the first female commando in the Australian Army. I dunno how that worked, as I don't think Australia has females in infantry roles. Perhaps she was an explosives expert and didn't wind up in close combat with enemies? :dunno:
Well, I did mean women. I think all female units would be more appropriate than mixed. Just like Aussie schools :{D
But even the less strong women, you could find combat rolls as base guards or security. That I'd think eliminate the need to march long distances with heavy packs. Besides, the M-16 assault rifle was designed so diminutive Vietnamese men could use them.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:34 pm

Woman probably are already base guards or security in many armies including the UK and US. This is about infantry, though. That is, the pointy end of the battle.
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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:48 pm

eRv wrote:Woman probably are already base guards or security in many armies including the UK and US. This is about infantry, though. That is, the pointy end of the battle.
Well there are women in the Dutch infantry but not many.
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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by Seth » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:29 pm

eRv wrote:Strength might be the one that does them in. Fireman carrying your wounded mate in a 50m sprint would probably see the vast majority of women fail.
Yup. But we have female firefighters anyway. When political correctness prevails, standards are adjusted to meet the political objective to the detriment of the actual objective of the tasks assigned.

I'm sure that there are many men who are less physically able to be a soldier or firefighter than the "average woman" is, but the point is that they don't get to be firefighters or soldiers just because it's "unfair" that fatties with bad knees and asthma don't get to serve in "close combat roles."

Discriminating against women or effeminate skinny men in assigning them duties as a front-line combat soldier isn't based on their sex, it's based on their inability to perform the necessary intense physical tasks involved, as it should be.

If a woman can pass all those tests on an equal basis with men and without "adjustments" for their sex to the standards I have no problem with them in combat. They have as much right to defend their country as anyone else, and as much of a duty to do so if and when conscripted, as anyone else.

Plus, for every soldier at the pointy end there are at least 10 REMFs behind the lines keeping him supplied and informed. That women are unsuited to front-line combat does not make their service any less important or honorable.

What we could do is replace 50% of the REMFs with women, so they have "equality" thus leaving more men free to fight...and die...in combat.
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Post by Seth » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:31 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
eRv wrote:Woman probably are already base guards or security in many armies including the UK and US. This is about infantry, though. That is, the pointy end of the battle.
Well there are women in the Dutch infantry but not many.
Or is the Dutch infantry in the women...or each other?

I wonder if the Dutch infantry suffers from anoxia if they have to fight anywhere above mean sea level?

Anybody who chooses to live below sea level is, in my opinion, just too stupid to live...and that goes for Holland and New Orleans.
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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by laklak » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:14 pm

Somebody's got to wash the dirty uniforms and make the sammiches.
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Re: Women 'to serve in close combat roles' in the Brit milit

Post by laklak » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:15 pm

If DD sees that last post I'll have called in a tactical airstrike on my own position.
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