Nigel Farage

[cronus]

Migrations are not the norm at current scales - it worked in America because the wilderness was vast. Where populations mix there is always the danger of violence - so large shifts must happen over centuries not decades to mitigate violence between groups. The uniform might be left or right but a uniform is required because different peoples 'personal spaces' and cultural norms are different. Some are more tactile and crude like the Germans learned with Cologne.

[Tyrannical]

The word nationalist shouldn't even exist, if you are not one you meet the definition of traitor.

traitor and proud of it, I'm not going to give a blanc seing to our governemtn to do just anything, just because they are the gummint, and I'll go to Canada if I must.

Quebec City is lovely and the winter carnival is cool. Cold actually
Though you could just vote Marine Le Pen.....

[Svartalf]

she's not a ssolution, she's a worse problem

[cronus]

she's not a ssolution, she's a worse problem

No way around the fact France needs change. You gotta take what's on offer and hope it leads to the best outcome later by repercussion. You can also invent imaginary saviours and hope for the change you want that way. Except it doesn't work nothing wrong with that.

[Feck]

[cronus]

There's a reason the ballot box is anonymous.

[Brian Peacock]

The word nationalist shouldn't even exist, if you are not one you meet the definition of traitor.

So blind loyalty to a country you happen totally at random to be born into?

And you pretend to be rational?

Dulce et Decorum est pro patria mori.

[Svartalf]

she's not a ssolution, she's a worse problem

No way around the fact France needs change. You gotta take what's on offer and hope it leads to the best outcome later by repercussion. You can also invent imaginary saviours and hope for the change you want that way. Except it doesn't work nothing wrong with that.

This suggestion from a nihilist of your caliber is all I need to know I'm right... it's like nuking a city to quell a riot.

[Brian Peacock]

Migrations are not the norm at current scales.

The economy depends on migration. Are you prepared to be a bit poorer in a poorer society for a smaller Britain? This is the question no one is asking in the EU vote.

[Svartalf]

Migrations are not the norm at current scales.

The economy depends on migration. Are you prepared to be a bit poorer in a poorer society for a smaller Britain? This is the question no one is asking in the EU vote.

you mean that GB would diminish if it went out of the EU? Who'd'a kenned there were benefits to membership in that inhuman nation crushing machine?

But the UK doesn't need the EU; itsd relationship with America and the commonwealth is all it needs

[Brian Peacock]

That's not my point. The EU 'debate' IS about immigration - this is the dog whistle those who would like to rewrite the UK constitution in their favour are using to whip up fear and interest in a Leave vote. Part of this scam is to say that we're over-populated so that it doesn't look kinda racist, but without the 15% of us that weren't born here the birthrate would be less than 2. So, like with our crumpled friend here, this silliness, repeated often enough, becomes integrated into what passes for a fact and the question of European institutionalised political cooperation becomes subsumed in fears about undesirable foreign types coming over here to steal our jobs, shag our daughters, make our high streets smell funny with their weird food, and English becoming a second language before we're all made to convert to Islam.

[cronus]

Immigrants grow old and require support themselves, the logic impasse of the immigration boosts economy flock is well known. It might fool the simple folk to claim a perpetual motion machine actually works....

[Brian Peacock]

You're forgetting our current economic models depend on perpetual growth - and nobody is making any effort to have it otherwise.

[cronus]

You're forgetting our current economic models depend on perpetual growth - and nobody is making any effort to have it otherwise.

Nature via climate change, resource depletion, migration led social chaos from wars on account of water depletion? etc... http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ist/?next ... -72513729/

The limits of growth...not far away. Very low productivity in the Uk despite all this population surge....

[Brian Peacock]

All these thing are within the sphere of political influence - yet we're being repeatedly told that a supposed immigration tsunami is the greatest existential threat to our way of life in a generation. Go figure.