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Re: National Socialist Party Has A Anti-Semitic Problem

Post by JimC » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:56 am

What it seems to me to be is understandable reactions to oppressive Israeli government actions being unwisely morphed into generalised anti-Jewish sentiment...
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:57 am

there are anti zionists, and then there are anti jews/antisemites.
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Post by JimC » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:59 am

Svartalf wrote:there are anti zionists, and then there are anti jews/antisemites.
One has a reasonable political rationale, the other borders on racism. Just with anti-islamic movements, it is a great pity when a reasoned position is absorbed by red-necked racists...
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Post by NineBerry » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:03 am

Svartalf wrote:but now that Europe is being invaded by ethnic arabs (and I mean from the Maghreb, not the Syrian refugees who are a raindrop in the sea), it's high time to revive the actual etymology of the term.

This idea is as wrong and as abhorrent as the ideas of the antisemites of the 19th century.

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Post by cronus » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:58 am

Only take a small book written in prison to set the whole of Europe aflame again.... :read:
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:10 am

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Svartalf wrote:but now that Europe is being invaded by ethnic arabs (and I mean from the Maghreb, not the Syrian refugees who are a raindrop in the sea), it's high time to revive the actual etymology of the term.

This idea is as wrong and as abhorrent as the ideas of the antisemites of the 19th century.
The Spanish keep reminding us that last time it took them 7 centuries to get rid of the invasion, and they aren't wrong.
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Post by Rum » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:16 am

Are people that stupid? Perhaps they are. But it is really very easy to distinguish between supposed (or otherwise) abuses made by the Israelis on behalf of their state and the specific 'traditional' anti-Semitism as practiced by the Nazis and their ilk.

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Post by cronus » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:33 am

Rum wrote:Are people that stupid? Perhaps they are. But it is really very easy to distinguish between supposed (or otherwise) abuses made by the Israelis on behalf of their state and the specific 'traditional' anti-Semitism as practiced by the Nazis and their ilk.
You mix in those circles where logic and intelligence are the norm. For most of the plebs this is not the case. All they know is low pay zero hours contracts and some foreigners of strange outlandish colour and beliefs come to take their meagre livelihoods away. As soon as the pleb understands the Arab Muslims are Semites....I see trouble ahead. :read:
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Re: National Socialist Party Has A Anti-Semitic Problem

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Svartalf wrote:
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Svartalf wrote:but now that Europe is being invaded by ethnic arabs (and I mean from the Maghreb, not the Syrian refugees who are a raindrop in the sea), it's high time to revive the actual etymology of the term.

This idea is as wrong and as abhorrent as the ideas of the antisemites of the 19th century.
The Spanish keep reminding us that last time it took them 7 centuries to get rid of the invasion, and they aren't wrong.
I am sure you are aware of the difference between an empire engaged in conquest and individual people on the move to find a better live?

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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:08 pm

Svartalf wrote:I refuse to restrict the word to Jews, I'll go on applying it to all semites.
the jewish folk who have kidnapped the word for themselves a;lone well deserve the hatred for diverting a word from its actual meaning.
You sound like those bigots who claim not to be homophobic because they're not afraid of gays.

Word meanings evolve. Deal with it.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:10 pm

Oh, and Labour being full of anti-semites is not news to any of us who have spent significant time at RatSkep.
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Re: National Socialist Party Has A Anti-Semitic Problem

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:17 pm

Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:Are people that stupid? Perhaps they are. But it is really very easy to distinguish between supposed (or otherwise) abuses made by the Israelis on behalf of their state and the specific 'traditional' anti-Semitism as practiced by the Nazis and their ilk.
You mix in those circles where logic and intelligence are the norm. For most of the plebs this is not the case. All they know is low pay zero hours contracts and some foreigners of strange outlandish colour and beliefs come to take their meagre livelihoods away. As soon as the pleb understands the Arab Muslims are Semites....I see trouble ahead. :read:
odds of them getting the kinship between Jews and Arabs are low, and the UK is rife with Hindu and Pakistani muslims, not with Arabs anyway.
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Re: National Socialist Party Has A Anti-Semitic Problem

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:20 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
NineBerry wrote:
Svartalf wrote:but now that Europe is being invaded by ethnic arabs (and I mean from the Maghreb, not the Syrian refugees who are a raindrop in the sea), it's high time to revive the actual etymology of the term.

This idea is as wrong and as abhorrent as the ideas of the antisemites of the 19th century.
The Spanish keep reminding us that last time it took them 7 centuries to get rid of the invasion, and they aren't wrong.
I am sure you are aware of the difference between an empire engaged in conquest and individual people on the move to find a better live?
When the latter people are bent on importing their ways of life to our country rather than integrating into our society as other immigrant waves did, I find that the distinction between the two becomes strangely blurred, even though the conquest may be slightly slower and start less violently.
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Re: National Socialist Party Has A Anti-Semitic Problem

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:21 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
Svartalf wrote:I refuse to restrict the word to Jews, I'll go on applying it to all semites.
the jewish folk who have kidnapped the word for themselves a;lone well deserve the hatred for diverting a word from its actual meaning.
You sound like those bigots who claim not to be homophobic because they're not afraid of gays.

Word meanings evolve. Deal with it.
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Re: National Socialist Party Has A Anti-Semitic Problem

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:22 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:Oh, and Labour being full of anti-semites is not news to any of us who have spent significant time at RatSkep.
Aren't the tories quite as anti semite? or do they hide it in their contempt for all lower class people so it's not as visible?
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