Ian Duncan Smith resigns from UK Government

[Rum]

The guardian have just popped a piece up saying that he really resigned because they wouldn't let him cut benefits for pensioners.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ioner-cuts

Its mostly (us) oldies who vote!

[Brian Peacock]

I'm not old, I'm just well-ripened.

[Svartalf]

He's an odious cunt.

most politicoes, and tories moreso, answer to that definition

[Svartalf]

I'm not old, I'm just well-ripened.

you double Gloucester you

[Brian Peacock]

Yerp!

[DaveDodo007]

I'm a conservative and even I found that cunts war on the disabled unpalatable. I'm glad he has fucked off.

[Feck]

That's the nicest thing you have ever said Dodo but that IS the point We ALL know that the CUNTservatives are running a pogrom of all the groups that can be blamed for the state of the economy.
Of course the Banking collapse the global melt down were NOT caused by Welfare recipients no matter what The Torry Rags say People on ESA DLA and unemployment did NOT cause the housing bubble they weren't the ones getting ninja loans on houses.
They weren't the ones propping up toxic loans they weren't the one defrauding the country by massive tax evasion/avoidance ......
They are just a convenient scapegoat for FUCKING TORRY VOTING BASTARDS all complicit .
The ONLY use for a Tory voter in the UK is lamppost decoration and crow food . Selfish nearsighted cretins who have cut off their own noses .
The golden child of the SHITTING ON THE POOR policy Ian Duncan Smith has ADMITTED that ideology not economics was behind ALL the welfare cuts The country is going downhill There will be no recovery BECAUSE (as all economists KNOW )
SHITTING ON THE POOR does not make a country grow it never has it never will IT'S A FUCKING LIE designed to appeal to the ignorant and the near sighted selfish .

[Feck]

AND I can't believe IDS resigned because of conscience ....I'd like to think it was fear of us poor; that like villagers with torches from classic gothic horror we, somehow , might repay him for the lives lost , the misery and fear caused
but I doubt it . I'd hope It is because He has been told that the country IS going to actually wake up . but I doubt it

[Brian Peacock]

IDS's new-found ethical qualms are a front - he knows it, we all know it. He's the don't-you-know-who-I-am, self-entitled, bigot who has a personal hand in redefining the work capability assessment for sick and disabled people which excluded 12 out of 14 applicants (60% of which are being reinstated on appeal), the man who devised the bedroom tax,, a policy which significantly and disproportionately impacted on the disabled and long-term sick. He justified the bedroom tax on 'fairness' (it wasn't fair that some people had more floor space than the government had decided they needed) and on the assertion that free-market principles would mean that those unfairly occupying properties too big for them would be encouraged to move to smaller properties, thus releasing social housing stock. Yet he already knew that there wasn't any surplus housing stock for people to move into, so the measure was just a very blatant way to reduce people's incomes without adversely hitting the EU commitments to income poverty. The policy has had the direct consequence of producing a knock-on increase in rent indebtedness and evictions in the social housing sector which, after the enactment of the Housing and Planning Bill 2015-16, will also mean that social housing providers will have to (yes have to) place their housing stock on the open market when a tenancy is terminated. IDS had no qualms about pricing people out of their publicly owned homes and selling them off to property investors so I very much doubt he has found a conscience over this all of a sudden.

[Strontium Dog]

IDS is responsible for a lot of things, but the bedroom "tax" isn't one. Labour introduced it for private rental properties in 2008. It was called the Local Housing Allowance, and it introduced the concept of only paying benefit for the number of rooms the claimant would need to occupy.

At the same time as they introduced LHA, they also gave social landlords the right to evict tenants who were under-occupying their social housing, and were running pilot schemes on extending LHA to social housing.

When the coalition came to power two years later, they did indeed extend the concept to social housing, because it is surely unfair to discriminate against people in receipt of housing benefit based on who their landlord is.

At this point, Labour suddenly realised that the measure they had introduced in 2008 for private renters in receipt of housing benefit was unfair now that the coalition government was extending it to social renters. Folk can make their own minds up whether this was a genuine moment of epiphany, or just political expediency.

[cronus]

Given how much the Welsh economy is dependant on benefits should be a improvement for the unfortunates in society now?

[Svartalf]

! Long time no see!

[cronus]

Sometimes they come back.

[Brian Peacock]

Hiya Crumpy. Hope you are well.

[cronus]

A few less edges on the dice but getting back to normal.