Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

[cronus]

Mormons share characteristics with Muslims. They are a state within a state. Setting their own laws and having a insular world view. They have a war manual as a sacred book. It might not be activated like the Q'ran but it could be tomorrow.

[cronus]

Mormons share characteristics with Muslims. They are a state within a state. Setting their own laws and having a insular world view. They have a war manual as a sacred book. It might not be activated like the Q'ran but it could be tomorrow.

[Svartalf]

Wayback machine fallacy? I didn't know that one... now, is that seth just begging to get back on the ignore list or will somebody whose opinion I can respect explain me
a) what that fallacy is and how I stepped into it
b) how it was silly?

[pErvinalia]

It's one of his stupid made up fallacies. I call it the "Made Up Fallacy" fallacy...

[Collector1337]

Looks like Jews agree with Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/middleeas ... migration/

[Seth]

Wayback machine fallacy? I didn't know that one... now, is that seth just begging to get back on the ignore list or will somebody whose opinion I can respect explain me
a) what that fallacy is and how I stepped into it
b) how it was silly?

The Wayback Machine fallacy is exemplified by precisely what you stated. It's the fallacy of having to reach hundreds or thousands of years into the past to find some evil deed done in name of X as support for an argument that X is evil today.

The most frequent example of this is the Wayback Machine resort to the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades as justification for vilifying and insulting present-day Catholicism.

The "Wayback Machine" refers to a TV cartoon which featured a hyper-intelligent dog, Mr. Peabody and his young student Sherman who used a time machine called the Wayback Machine to examine events in the past. It was pseudo-educational.

[pErvinalia]

You forgot to mention that it's something you made up, and not a formal logical fallacy.

[cronus]

[JimC]

Seth wrote:

The Wayback Machine fallacy is exemplified by precisely what you stated. It's the fallacy of having to reach hundreds or thousands of years into the past to find some evil deed done in name of X as support for an argument that X is evil today.

The most frequent example of this is the Wayback Machine resort to the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades as justification for vilifying and insulting present-day Catholicism.

Simply incorrect, in the way that I, and many others here have used the historical facts of past christian atrocities. We have not used them to vilify current catholics (whose hierarchy doesn't need any more vilification than its appalling lack of response to abuse by priests)

Rather it has been used to show that Islam is not a unique example of a barbaric religion - in the past, christians did much the same evil in the name of their religion. Simply, in almost all ways, current christianity has been tamed by centuries of secular opposition to churchly rule - it no longer calls the shots. Islam has not been through such a comparable historical process - one rather hopes it will at some stage...

[piscator]

[piscator]

Wayback machine fallacy? I didn't know that one... now, is that seth just begging to get back on the ignore list or will somebody whose opinion I can respect explain me
a) what that fallacy is and how I stepped into it
b) how it was silly?

[Rum]

Yep, just like Christianity only a little less old.

Comparing Christians to Muslims?

Please tell me you are not this stupid.

Yeah, I'm that stupid guy who reads history and knows what happened to Europe and the Middle East because Christianity a while back. Stupid me. Christians did plenty of killing of Christians until recently.

Incidentally the 'Institute' referred to in the above video is a one man show more or less. The guy was a physicist until he decided that there was a war between Merica and Islam and that he would make some money out of it.

[NineBerry]

Wayback machine fallacy? I didn't know that one... now, is that seth just begging to get back on the ignore list or will somebody whose opinion I can respect explain me
a) what that fallacy is and how I stepped into it
b) how it was silly?

Oh look! The Youtube machine fallacy!

[Svartalf]

[pErvinalia]