Cameron; A Perverse Taste For The Bacon ??

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Post by Calilasseia » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:32 pm

Meanwhile, on a more serious note, this article nicely encapsulates all the reasons why the rest of us are enjoying the schadenfreude moment for all it's worth. A few selected quotes are illustrative. First, typical right-wing financial corruption:
Ashcroft’s goal is, according to the Mail, “revenge”. In the years leading up to Cameron taking office in 2010, the tax-dodging billionaire had donated over £8 million to the Conservative Party, bailing them out of debt after their disastrous election defeat in 2005. He had worked as Treasurer and later Deputy Chairman of the party, helping to manage them back to an electable public image under Cameron. Yet Ashcroft had expected that he would be given high office in exchange for this, and Cameron didn’t pay up when the time came.
Second, the fascist mentality that is endemic to the entitlement-riddled, upper-class right-wing rich :
When Cameron was at Oxford, he was a member of several secret societies of rich young men. The most famous of these is the Bullingdon Club, after which Yale’s infamous Skull and Bones is fashioned. The aim of the Bullingdon Club is ostensibly to dress up fancy with the chaps, get blind drunk at an expensive restaurant or private dining room, and trash the place – because they can afford to pay for the damages without doing a day’s work. Among their known initiation rites, they are said to have to burn a £50 bill in front of a homeless person.

And that leads to the other side of what the Bullingdon Club (and societies like it) is about: upper class right wing team-building. The friendships and alliances forged in the secret drinking societies of powerful rich kids go on to define their careers, and these young men all have access to the highest rungs of British society. Three prominent members of Cameron’s cabinet were members, whilst many others went on to run the banks that crashed the economy in 2008 and the media empires that protect them.

Burning money in front of a homeless person isn’t just intended to be a nasty prank, it serves to train a Bullingdon boy’s senses, to make other humans seem somehow less. That David Cameron and his allies George Osborne and Boris Johnson have all done this, and that they have all presided over a sharp spike in homelessness in London and throughout the UK, are not coincidental. The MP who provided Lord Ashcroft with the details of the pig story attended one meeting of the expensive club but left in disgust because ‘it was all about despising poor people’.

And thus part of the reason why the British are so ready to believe Lord Ashcroft’s story, aside from the fact that Ashcroft is a top-tier Establishment figure in a country with absurdly plaintiff-friendly libel laws, is that Cameron’s ideological training is already well understood by the public. There is nothing likable about such a background, particularly when the ruling class it produces is waging a war on the poor and disabled that would have made Thatcher blush.
Third, political corruption of a particularly seedy sort:
The pig scandal that now has the world laughing at Cameron wasn’t from the Bullingdon Club but the Piers Gaverston, less well-known (until this week), but with a reputation for bizarre sexual rituals and initiation rites. Where the Bullingdon boys built their fraternity around shared values of hating the poor, the Piers Gaverston was about sexual humiliation and the creation of shared secrets. Its structural function is as an agreement of mutually assured destruction between the rulers of tomorrow – I know your secret and you know mine, so let’s stay on the same side, yeah?

This forms one of the core mechanics of the British ruling class – why reveal someone’s dirty little secret when you can keep schtum about it and control them? This forms the basis of the parliamentary whipping system, where the Chief Whip of each respective party is expected to have an arsenal of dirt locked away in their office so that when the time comes, their party leader can ‘whip’ rebellious backbenchers with threats that sometimes include leaking that story about you that you really don’t want to be leaked.

In this elite culture not all corruption is financial. When it comes to the top of British politics, sound character and a clean record do not make you an asset. You’ll have a hard time joining unless they can confirm that you are scum – and can make sure that the public don’t know about it.
Fourth, more on the nastier manifestations of that political corruption:
Where this relates to Cameron’s little mishap is that the public are already exhausted to the point of raw antipathy with the way Westminster power works, as a marketplace of secrets among unaccountable elites. Our politicians might be screwing children, but the ones who could help us to find out about it are making sure that story is blocked. When that kind of behavior is the norm, the British public can’t really be blamed for believing that their PM put his knob into a pig to join a secret society. This, too, is probably normal to these people.
Fifth, why this is all toxic and corrosive to real democracy:
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne (also of the Bullingdon Club), was criticized by charities representing poor and disabled people whose economic and household security was ruined by his reforms. He dismissed them as “anti-business” and gave tax breaks to millionaires (half of whom, incidentally, went to independent schools) in the name of “fairness”.

And David Cameron himself often likes to talk about the supposed existence of meritocracy in the United Kingdom. He, too, went to Eton before joining the Bullingdon Club and the Piers Gaverston. He is one of the most vocal Conservatives when it comes to championing the ideology of meritocracy, telling poor people and ethnic minorities that their lack of social climbing is because they lack “aspiration”, and that ‘free’ markets (that is, unregulated financial bonanzas, by his allegiances) “can make you a better person”.

Separate from what he says, however, his government has significantly increased inequality and decreased social mobility, making it even harder for people outside of his privileged background to fulfill the meritocratic values he regularly trumpets.

The wound of that hypocrisy was already festering before Lord Ashcroft punished him this week for breaking the rules of the ritual: that you will obey the people who made you, or you will be humiliated. This wasn’t, as some have said, young men being silly. Not if the secrets being kept are designed by powerful men to keep other powerful men under control. That kind of arrangement is the antithesis of democracy.

And it is also the antithesis to the meritocracy they proclaim. Not just because it’s rich boys getting an easy ride to the top – we already knew that – but because David Cameron’s nasty little scandal speaks to a suspicion many people already have: that in British society, you don’t get to become Prime Minister because you’re talented or because you work hard. You don’t even get there just because you’re rich. You get there by traumatizing the homeless and skull-fucking a dead pig, and that ritual gives you power because you have demonstrated utter, pathetic submission to your fellow oligarchs.

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Re: Cameron; A Perverse Taste For The Bacon ??

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May I ask... what the shite is going on in the UK? I thought American politics these days were about as low as they could get. :think:

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Post by Calilasseia » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:30 pm

Ian wrote:May I ask... what the shite is going on in the UK? I thought American politics these days were about as low as they could get. :think:
You keep your inbreeds out of politics. We, on the other hand, have had our politics taken over by them.

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Ian wrote:May I ask... what the shite is going on in the UK? I thought American politics these days were about as low as they could get. :think:
You keep your inbreeds out of politics. We, on the other hand, have had our politics taken over by them.
I'm too afraid to actually look into this on my own. Is this a serious claim about Cameron? If so, what does he say about it? And how on Earth do you explain this to kids?

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Ian wrote:
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Ian wrote:May I ask... what the shite is going on in the UK? I thought American politics these days were about as low as they could get. :think:
You keep your inbreeds out of politics. We, on the other hand, have had our politics taken over by them.
I'm too afraid to actually look into this on my own. Is this a serious claim about Cameron? If so, what does he say about it? And how on Earth do you explain this to kids?
It's very serious.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34312744

As for kids, they're safe... it's piglets you really need to worry about. :hehe:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:04 pm

Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, on a more serious note, this article nicely encapsulates all the reasons why the rest of us are enjoying the schadenfreude moment for all it's worth. A few selected quotes are illustrative. First, typical right-wing financial corruption:
Ashcroft’s goal is, according to the Mail, “revenge”. In the years leading up to Cameron taking office in 2010, the tax-dodging billionaire had donated over £8 million to the Conservative Party, bailing them out of debt after their disastrous election defeat in 2005. He had worked as Treasurer and later Deputy Chairman of the party, helping to manage them back to an electable public image under Cameron. Yet Ashcroft had expected that he would be given high office in exchange for this, and Cameron didn’t pay up when the time came.
Second, the fascist mentality that is endemic to the entitlement-riddled, upper-class right-wing rich :
When Cameron was at Oxford, he was a member of several secret societies of rich young men. The most famous of these is the Bullingdon Club, after which Yale’s infamous Skull and Bones is fashioned. The aim of the Bullingdon Club is ostensibly to dress up fancy with the chaps, get blind drunk at an expensive restaurant or private dining room, and trash the place – because they can afford to pay for the damages without doing a day’s work. Among their known initiation rites, they are said to have to burn a £50 bill in front of a homeless person.

And that leads to the other side of what the Bullingdon Club (and societies like it) is about: upper class right wing team-building. The friendships and alliances forged in the secret drinking societies of powerful rich kids go on to define their careers, and these young men all have access to the highest rungs of British society. Three prominent members of Cameron’s cabinet were members, whilst many others went on to run the banks that crashed the economy in 2008 and the media empires that protect them.

Burning money in front of a homeless person isn’t just intended to be a nasty prank, it serves to train a Bullingdon boy’s senses, to make other humans seem somehow less. That David Cameron and his allies George Osborne and Boris Johnson have all done this, and that they have all presided over a sharp spike in homelessness in London and throughout the UK, are not coincidental. The MP who provided Lord Ashcroft with the details of the pig story attended one meeting of the expensive club but left in disgust because ‘it was all about despising poor people’.

And thus part of the reason why the British are so ready to believe Lord Ashcroft’s story, aside from the fact that Ashcroft is a top-tier Establishment figure in a country with absurdly plaintiff-friendly libel laws, is that Cameron’s ideological training is already well understood by the public. There is nothing likable about such a background, particularly when the ruling class it produces is waging a war on the poor and disabled that would have made Thatcher blush.
Third, political corruption of a particularly seedy sort:
The pig scandal that now has the world laughing at Cameron wasn’t from the Bullingdon Club but the Piers Gaverston, less well-known (until this week), but with a reputation for bizarre sexual rituals and initiation rites. Where the Bullingdon boys built their fraternity around shared values of hating the poor, the Piers Gaverston was about sexual humiliation and the creation of shared secrets. Its structural function is as an agreement of mutually assured destruction between the rulers of tomorrow – I know your secret and you know mine, so let’s stay on the same side, yeah?

This forms one of the core mechanics of the British ruling class – why reveal someone’s dirty little secret when you can keep schtum about it and control them? This forms the basis of the parliamentary whipping system, where the Chief Whip of each respective party is expected to have an arsenal of dirt locked away in their office so that when the time comes, their party leader can ‘whip’ rebellious backbenchers with threats that sometimes include leaking that story about you that you really don’t want to be leaked.

In this elite culture not all corruption is financial. When it comes to the top of British politics, sound character and a clean record do not make you an asset. You’ll have a hard time joining unless they can confirm that you are scum – and can make sure that the public don’t know about it.
Fourth, more on the nastier manifestations of that political corruption:
Where this relates to Cameron’s little mishap is that the public are already exhausted to the point of raw antipathy with the way Westminster power works, as a marketplace of secrets among unaccountable elites. Our politicians might be screwing children, but the ones who could help us to find out about it are making sure that story is blocked. When that kind of behavior is the norm, the British public can’t really be blamed for believing that their PM put his knob into a pig to join a secret society. This, too, is probably normal to these people.
Fifth, why this is all toxic and corrosive to real democracy:
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne (also of the Bullingdon Club), was criticized by charities representing poor and disabled people whose economic and household security was ruined by his reforms. He dismissed them as “anti-business” and gave tax breaks to millionaires (half of whom, incidentally, went to independent schools) in the name of “fairness”.

And David Cameron himself often likes to talk about the supposed existence of meritocracy in the United Kingdom. He, too, went to Eton before joining the Bullingdon Club and the Piers Gaverston. He is one of the most vocal Conservatives when it comes to championing the ideology of meritocracy, telling poor people and ethnic minorities that their lack of social climbing is because they lack “aspiration”, and that ‘free’ markets (that is, unregulated financial bonanzas, by his allegiances) “can make you a better person”.

Separate from what he says, however, his government has significantly increased inequality and decreased social mobility, making it even harder for people outside of his privileged background to fulfill the meritocratic values he regularly trumpets.

The wound of that hypocrisy was already festering before Lord Ashcroft punished him this week for breaking the rules of the ritual: that you will obey the people who made you, or you will be humiliated. This wasn’t, as some have said, young men being silly. Not if the secrets being kept are designed by powerful men to keep other powerful men under control. That kind of arrangement is the antithesis of democracy.

And it is also the antithesis to the meritocracy they proclaim. Not just because it’s rich boys getting an easy ride to the top – we already knew that – but because David Cameron’s nasty little scandal speaks to a suspicion many people already have: that in British society, you don’t get to become Prime Minister because you’re talented or because you work hard. You don’t even get there just because you’re rich. You get there by traumatizing the homeless and skull-fucking a dead pig, and that ritual gives you power because you have demonstrated utter, pathetic submission to your fellow oligarchs.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:19 am

This sort of thing does go on, in minor ways all over the world.
There's not a lot of difference between this and the secret Catholic societies, or the Freemasons, or the scouts and guides, or millions of other organisations that use ritual to bind people.

It's peer pressure through ritual, and it works. It's self-perpetuating.
The Aztecs and Incas used human sacrifice, whereas Cameron stuck his knob in a dead pig's mouth.

Our ancestors used public execution as a bank holiday to entertain and scare the masses.
Often of innocent people accused of witchcraft.
Other societies take powerful poisonous drugs, or do horrendous things to their skin, as a badge that they have passed the initiation rites.

And of course, very few people even raise an eyebrow, when some people cut off part of a baby's penis, in a disgusting ritual initiation ceremony. I personally find that far more disgusting, than Cameron sticking his dick in a dead pig's mouth.
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Post by cronus » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:24 am

The man is plainly another Saville. His interest in online morality and notoriety, and access to the keys to Broadmoor the UK...we'll probably find he's got a secret dungeon full of dead plebs later.... :read:
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Post by Rum » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:36 am

Ian wrote:
Calilasseia wrote:
Ian wrote:May I ask... what the shite is going on in the UK? I thought American politics these days were about as low as they could get. :think:
You keep your inbreeds out of politics. We, on the other hand, have had our politics taken over by them.
I'm too afraid to actually look into this on my own. Is this a serious claim about Cameron? If so, what does he say about it? And how on Earth do you explain this to kids?
It doesn't really matter if it is true or not. The 'great British public' have had a good laugh at the man who is in charge. We love to mock those who would presume to lead us more than almost any other nation I can think of.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:54 pm

I take it he won't be going on the Hajj this year then... :tea:
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Post by cronus » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:10 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I take it he won't be going on the Hajj this year then... :tea:
Too busy deleting his bestiality collection before the Met turn up with some questions...and a van. :read:
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