Communism works...yeah, NOT!

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Re: Communism works...yeah, NOT!

Post by JimC » Thu May 22, 2014 3:14 am

rEvolutionist wrote:co-operatives aren't communism, nor are they representative of communism.
True, but the one in the OP seemed to be trying to cling on to a romantic communist image from the past...
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Post by Tero » Thu May 22, 2014 3:16 am

It's cause of the cell phones. Communism can't afford 100 dollars a month for each member. Quit browsing, back to baking and scrubbing.

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 3:27 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:co-operatives aren't communism, nor are they representative of communism.
True, but the one in the OP seemed to be trying to cling on to a romantic communist image from the past...
But as I said, attempts at real communistic enterprises will struggle in a capitalist framework. Particularly one so uber-capitalist as the US.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu May 22, 2014 5:13 am

rEvolutionist wrote:It's not surprising a small co-operative can't exist in an uber-capitalist society. That says absolutely nothing about communism.
What it shows you is how incompetent these modern day commie want a bees are. Lots of small co-ops and non-profits exist and are run well in an under-capitalist society.
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Post by FBM » Thu May 22, 2014 5:29 am

There are a couple of hybrid systems that are doing reasonably well for themselves.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 5:43 am

Tyrannical wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:It's not surprising a small co-operative can't exist in an uber-capitalist society. That says absolutely nothing about communism.
What it shows you is how incompetent these modern day commie want a bees are. Lots of small co-ops and non-profits exist and are run well in an under-capitalist society.
It's got nothing to do with communism. These people were probably simply incompetent. Either generally, or in terms of running a cooperative in an uber-capitalist framework.
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Post by JimC » Thu May 22, 2014 6:40 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:It's not surprising a small co-operative can't exist in an uber-capitalist society. That says absolutely nothing about communism.
What it shows you is how incompetent these modern day commie want a bees are. Lots of small co-ops and non-profits exist and are run well in an under-capitalist society.
It's got nothing to do with communism. These people were probably simply incompetent. Either generally, or in terms of running a cooperative in an uber-capitalist framework.
And I suspect that the incompetence is linked to wanting to live in a fool's paradise of empty rhetoric, rather than simp[ly getting on with the job.
Tyrannical wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:It's not surprising a small co-operative can't exist in an uber-capitalist society. That says absolutely nothing about communism.
What it shows you is how incompetent these modern day commie want a bees are. Lots of small co-ops and non-profits exist and are run well in an under-capitalist society.
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Post by mistermack » Thu May 22, 2014 8:05 am

Rather than point to a communist cafe, you could point to a communist country.

Isn't China still communist? Ain't it on course to overtake the USA economically?

Doesn't it own the American national debt?

Is that how capitalism ''works''? Borrow from the communists to keep going?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 22, 2014 8:19 am

:hehe:

That's the no true communist fallacy, reconfigured for libertarians...
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Thu May 22, 2014 9:14 am

JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:co-operatives aren't communism, nor are they representative of communism.
True, but the one in the OP seemed to be trying to cling on to a romantic communist image from the past...
The OP has come through a game of Chinese whispers by several right wing blogs and opinion news sites. A building on the university campus needs renovation, which is the responsibility of the university administration. The building in question happens to have been used for several decades for a student run co-operative cafe and social space. The university administration may decided not to continue funding it. As the cafe happens to be named after "mass-murdering dictator" Che Guevara, we get an article from Seth talking about the failure of communism and a million dollar grab for cash by commie-loving students.
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]

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Post by rainbow » Thu May 22, 2014 11:59 am

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Post by Hermit » Thu May 22, 2014 12:28 pm

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Post by Hermit » Thu May 22, 2014 12:32 pm

PsychoSerenity wrote:
JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:co-operatives aren't communism, nor are they representative of communism.
True, but the one in the OP seemed to be trying to cling on to a romantic communist image from the past...
The OP has come through a game of Chinese whispers by several right wing blogs and opinion news sites. A building on the university campus needs renovation, which is the responsibility of the university administration. The building in question happens to have been used for several decades for a student run co-operative cafe and social space. The university administration may decided not to continue funding it. As the cafe happens to be named after "mass-murdering dictator" Che Guevara, we get an article from Seth talking about the failure of communism and a million dollar grab for cash by commie-loving students.
Ahu. So after 34 years the university's administrators finally worked out a way to pull the rug out from underneath an organisation run by volunteers. Conclusive proof that communism does not work indeed.

I wonder what subsidies the coop would have received if it had named itself the Ayn Rand Cafe. I can see arsewipes like the Koch brothers making generous contributions because then it would have served as a shining example of lolbertarian voluntarism.
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Post by FBM » Thu May 22, 2014 1:03 pm

rainbow wrote:Communism is just Libertarianism, but with cool hats.
There's no such thing as a cool hat these days.
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Post by rainbow » Thu May 22, 2014 1:06 pm

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