Abortion is racist genocide in action

[piscator]

Which is beside the point, which is that PP is a racist organization that springs from the poisonous tree of racism and eugenics and has put on a gloss of faux-concern about women's rights to conceal it's rather more prosaic and cupidinous agenda which involves making lots of money and killing black babies by the truckload.

Seth, you're a douchebag and a kook and your handle makes me think of American History X, but you got rhythm boy.

[cronus]

Which is beside the point, which is that PP is a racist organization that springs from the poisonous tree of racism and eugenics and has put on a gloss of faux-concern about women's rights to conceal it's rather more prosaic and cupidinous agenda which involves making lots of money and killing black babies by the truckload.

Seth, you're a douchebag and your handle makes me think of American History X, but you got rhythm.

Speaking objectively, from a older culture and indifferent perspective, Seth is nearer to how it appears from the outside. Women need woman doctors for more private things, and they need peers. How many poor black gals become doctors in the US?

[Seth]

Liberty=choice. How can a Libertarian reject individual freedom of choice?

Because that particular decision, at some point or other, involves initiating force upon someone else.

Which is beside the point, which is that PP is a racist organization that springs from the poisonous tree of racism and eugenics and has put on a gloss of faux-concern about women's rights to conceal it's rather more prosaic and cupidinous agenda which involves making lots of money and killing black babies by the truckload.

Even leaders of the black community happen to agree with me about the horrible effects of PP's activities on black families and culture.

For every abortion there is a man somewhere who for his pleasure put a woman in emotional stress enough to seek a abortion, Seth.

Complete feminazi horseshit. For (almost) every abortion there's a woman who made a voluntary, conscious decision to spread her legs and enjoy the feeling of cock in her pussy for her pleasure.

The initial impetus is a man and the answer is to seek errant fathers and love-rats who have not provided the emotional support and cut their gooleys off. Won't need to happen much for the majority of men to read the signs and provide supporting structures for their women so they can be complete women in every measure.

More horseshit. You are calling women helpless, brainless, subservient fuck-holes, which is disgustingly patronizing and completely misogynistic. Women today decide to have sex all on their own, and they decide whether to make the man wear a condom, and they decide whether to use contraceptives and they decide whether to keep a baby that results from all of those decisions WOMEN make.

If the stupid cunts don't want to get knocked up, then they should keep their knickers on.

Men don't put their semen where it's not wanted these days because it's a crime to do so, and when crime is involved, the abortion debate changes.

For you to try to blame men is right out of the 18th century.

Grow up. Women control their pussies completely and have the final say over what goes in them and what comes out of them, so they are responsible for both, nobody else.

[pErvinalia]

Liberty=choice. How can a Libertarian reject individual freedom of choice?

Because that particular decision, at some point or other, involves initiating force upon someone else.

Which is beside the point, which is that PP is a racist organization that springs from the poisonous tree of racism and eugenics and has put on a gloss of faux-concern about women's rights to conceal it's rather more prosaic and cupidinous agenda which involves making lots of money and killing black babies by the truckload.

Even leaders of the black community happen to agree with me about the horrible effects of PP's activities on black families and culture.

You don't believe in "culture" or society, Seth. You allegedly believe in a collection of individuals acting in rational self interest. Except in this case (and all the other cases) where that ideology doesn't align with one of your conservative moralistic hobby horses.

[Seth]

Liberty=choice. How can a Libertarian reject individual freedom of choice?

Because that particular decision, at some point or other, involves initiating force upon someone else.

Which is beside the point, which is that PP is a racist organization that springs from the poisonous tree of racism and eugenics and has put on a gloss of faux-concern about women's rights to conceal it's rather more prosaic and cupidinous agenda which involves making lots of money and killing black babies by the truckload.

Even leaders of the black community happen to agree with me about the horrible effects of PP's activities on black families and culture.

You don't believe in "culture" or society, Seth. You allegedly believe in a collection of individuals acting in rational self interest. Except in this case (and all the other cases) where that ideology doesn't align with one of your conservative moralistic hobby horses.

Of course I believe in culture and society, I just don't believe in the coercive initiation of force or fraud by the government or anyone else.

[pErvinalia]

Where's the force or fraud? Why can't these women be free to choose whether they have an abortion or not??

[Seth]

Where's the force or fraud? Why can't these women be free to choose whether they have an abortion or not??

They can, right up until doing so initiates force on a viable fetus.

[cronus]

The crime Seth is the abortion. Not wanting to sound 18th century but it's been a man's world for a long time and unlikely to change because you've become infected with democratic ideals. I don't speak for women. I do feel it is a duty of every man alive to protect them. If he can't see the consequences in nine months then he's worse than a rapist, he's a potential murderer and a monster. Some crimes are not on the law books, and then a man must think for himself.

[Seth]

The crime Seth is the abortion. Not wanting to sound 18th century but it's been a man's world for a long time and unlikely to change because you've become infected with democratic ideals. I don't speak for women. I do feel it is a duty of every man alive to protect them. If he can't see the consequences in nine months then he's worse than a rapist, he's a potential murderer and a monster. Some crimes are not on the law books, and then a man must think for himself.

Meh. Again you demean women by implying that they need protection. They don't. They have claimed equality, they have (putatively) achieved equality. They claimed sovereignty over their bodies, they have achieved sovereignty over their bodies.

Therefore, they are completely and solely responsible for what happens to their bodies as a consequence of engaging in a voluntary act such as inviting a man's penis into her vagina.

It's just exactly that simple.

She is not required to do so. She need not do so. No one can lawfully force her to do so. She has the right to kill anyone who tries to do so against her will.

So if she does so, all responsibility and liability rests with her, and the man is completely and absolutely absolved of any and all future responsibility or liability by virtue of the woman's sovereign rights over her body.

End of story.

Women wanted equality, and they got it...good and hard. (With apologies to H.L. Mencken)

[pErvinalia]

Where's the force or fraud? Why can't these women be free to choose whether they have an abortion or not??

They can, right up until doing so initiates force on a viable fetus.

Lol. Yeah, as I said... you're only concerned about your particular conservative moral hobby horses. This has nothing to do with black women. It's got to do with your backwards religious thinking.

[cronus]

The crime Seth is the abortion. Not wanting to sound 18th century but it's been a man's world for a long time and unlikely to change because you've become infected with democratic ideals. I don't speak for women. I do feel it is a duty of every man alive to protect them. If he can't see the consequences in nine months then he's worse than a rapist, he's a potential murderer and a monster. Some crimes are not on the law books, and then a man must think for himself.

Meh. Again you demean women by implying that they need protection. They don't. They have claimed equality, they have (putatively) achieved equality. They claimed sovereignty over their bodies, they have achieved sovereignty over their bodies.

Therefore, they are completely and solely responsible for what happens to their bodies as a consequence of engaging in a voluntary act such as inviting a man's penis into her vagina.

It's just exactly that simple.

She is not required to do so. She need not do so. No one can lawfully force her to do so. She has the right to kill anyone who tries to do so against her will.

So if she does so, all responsibility and liability rests with her, and the man is completely and absolutely absolved of any and all future responsibility or liability by virtue of the woman's sovereign rights over her body.

End of story.

Women wanted equality, and they got it...good and hard. (With apologies to H.L. Mencken)

Women who are acting like men don't appeal to men. Equality works but only for a time, then the birth rate drops and the old can't be cared for and it all falls apart. These communists, who've gone and brainwashed you Seth, are always gonna lose because the world isn't fair. Women and men are different. Biology 101 and religion 101. The one point agreed by both.

[piscator]

Where's the force or fraud? Why can't these women be free to choose whether they have an abortion or not??

They can, right up until doing so initiates force on a viable fetus.

Is a 1st trimester fetus "Viable"?

[piscator]

So if she does so, all responsibility and liability rests with her, and the man is completely and absolutely absolved of any and all future responsibility or liability by virtue of the woman's sovereign rights over her body.

End of story.

Women wanted equality, and they got it...good and hard. (With apologies to H.L. Mencken)

I'd like to see you tell that to a judge, but obviously there's little danger of that.


Moreover, if an embryo is "Viable", didn't it instigate force and perhaps fraud against the mother by attaching itself to her uterus uninvited?

[piscator]

Where's the force or fraud? Why can't these women be free to choose whether they have an abortion or not??

They can, right up until doing so initiates force on a viable fetus.

Lol. Yeah, as I said... you're only concerned about your particular conservative moral hobby horses. This has nothing to do with black women. It's got to do with your backwards religious thinking.

A lot of political conservatives are social conservatives (or self loathing freaks) with nowhere else to go. They were inculcated with a regressive moralistic respect for the past, and most conceptions of a future are pure eschatology. Euthyphro really fucks them up, BTW.

[cronus]

Where's the force or fraud? Why can't these women be free to choose whether they have an abortion or not??

They can, right up until doing so initiates force on a viable fetus.

Lol. Yeah, as I said... you're only concerned about your particular conservative moral hobby horses. This has nothing to do with black women. It's got to do with your backwards religious thinking.

A lot of political conservatives are social conservatives (or self loathing freaks) with nowhere else to go. They were inculcated with a regressive moralistic respect for the past, and most conceptions of a future are pure eschatology. Euthyphro really fucks them up, BTW.

Nothing wrong with the eschaton, a powerful boot up the arse for any culture lacking self-motivation.