KFO

[PsychoSerenity]

Seems perfectly possible to me.

A meteor's weight to drag ratio is a lot higher than that of a Baumgartner

That's going to depend on the size, shape and density of it. For a small one it's going to be low.

Size has nothing to do with density.

It does effect the terminal velocity.

I think the measurements of the speed look about right. And you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if it had been dropped from a plane just high enough above to reach its terminal velocity.

[Hermit]

Now for photographic evidence of something completely different.

[MiM]

Now that can't be true. Everyone knows fairies live in Irland, not England

[Hermit]

Fairies live in Fairyland and Fairyland is anywhere gullible people live.

[Svartalf]

Now that can't be true. Everyone knows fairies live in Irland, not England

Actually, Soho, London, is full of fairies... and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was conned in another case of fake fairy pictures hoax.

[PsychoSerenity]

Nobody is saying the meteor definitely isn't a hoax. It could well be. But it seems an odd thing to make up and it's entirely plausible that it's true.

[tattuchu]

Holy shit.

I know, right? That dude's skin was really shiny

[Hermit]

...and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was conned in another case of fake fairy pictures hoax.

Yes. The Cottingley fairies were mentioned in detail, and two of the five photos republished in the link I provided, though Doyle was not. (Perhaps the owners of the newspaper also owned the copyright to Doyle's detective stories, and did not want to write something that might discourage their sale.) The Wikipedia article on that topic is more thorough.

Even intelligent people tend to believe what they want to believe. Doyle had some pretty cookie beliefs concerning the supernatural.

[MiM]

Even intelligent people tend to believe what they want to believe. Doyle had some pretty cookie beliefs concerning the supernatural.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - Richard Feynman

[Xamonas Chegwé]

you 're wrong but nothing I can do will convince you since you don't understand what terminal velocity is.

I suggest you read up on "terminal velocity".

Felix Baumgartner commenced with a velocity of 0 and finished up freefalling at 1357 km/h before the parachute was activated, which happened about 2000 metres above ground level. A meteor's weight to drag ratio is a lot higher than that of a Baumgartner, and it does not start from 0 velocity. It enters the atmosphere at anywhere between 11000 and 72 000 metres per second. Of course it slows down once it hits the atmosphere, but not to the extent that it is likely to be captured even by a highspeed Gopro camera on the helmet of a parachutist descending at the leisurely pace of less than 4 metres per second.

Anders Helstrup's video clip is a hoax, but do go on in your delusion...

Baumgartner reached that speed but was not traveling that fast when he opened his chute. His maximum speed occured far higher, at 30,000m, where the air is thin enough to allow such speeds. By the time he deployed his chute, he was going a lot slower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Stratos#Timeline

[Hermit]

you 're wrong but nothing I can do will convince you since you don't understand what terminal velocity is.

I suggest you read up on "terminal velocity".

Felix Baumgartner commenced with a velocity of 0 and finished up freefalling at 1357 km/h before the parachute was activated, which happened about 2000 metres above ground level. A meteor's weight to drag ratio is a lot higher than that of a Baumgartner, and it does not start from 0 velocity. It enters the atmosphere at anywhere between 11000 and 72 000 metres per second. Of course it slows down once it hits the atmosphere, but not to the extent that it is likely to be captured even by a highspeed Gopro camera on the helmet of a parachutist descending at the leisurely pace of less than 4 metres per second.

Anders Helstrup's video clip is a hoax, but do go on in your delusion...

Baumgartner reached that speed but was not traveling that fast when he opened his chute. His maximum speed occured far higher, at 30,000m, where the air is thin enough to allow such speeds. By the time he deployed his chute, he was going a lot slower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Stratos#Timeline

Read the bolded bit.

[cronus]

More cameras leads to more sightings of the obscure and unusual. Nothing else to say on the issue really. It's only unusual in it being on the way down rather than on the ground.

[macdoc]

which helped the relative motion as well and it looked to be in at a shallow angle

[macdoc]

Hermit wrote:
macdoc wrote:
you 're wrong but nothing I can do will convince you since you don't understand what terminal velocity is.
I suggest you read up on "terminal velocity".

I'm a pilot I dare say I have a better grasp than you do on VNE etc.

Most objects in dense air will terminal around 120-160 mph unless they are very slippery like a sailplane where 300 knots in a dive is not an issue.


he's doing 220 knots there

No idea what he was doing here to pull off a 360 turn but from the sound - nudging 300 knots.

These guys are hitting 280 - you can see them dumping water ballast



fun wow...turn the volume up

any ways....there is no reason to think that was not a meteor filmed.

[macdoc]

Hehe - discovered this

Love the Blanik - one of my fav planes.....this is just a tad on the edge tho