Found not guilty, then judge says he may be guilty

[Svartalf]

Interesting... Here, Appeals courts judge the facts of the case all over again and are liable to pay little attention to the Appellant's wishes if they find something else they do not like.

[Thinking Aloud]

Here in Scotland, there's a "not proven" verdict available, which sounds like what the judge was trying to say there.

[MrJonno]

Justice doest work that way and a problem with the adversarial system is if a woman accuses someone of rape and the accused is found not guilty in practical terms the courts are saying the rape didn't take place and the woman is lying.

With innocent until proven guilty a rape victim is considered to be lying until she can prove otherwise, no getting away from that

[JimC]

Here in Scotland, there's a "not proven" verdict available, which sounds like what the judge was trying to say there.

It sounded to me like he was trying to comfort the victim, basically saying that yes, you were abused, but due to legal technicalities we can't find the bastard guilty...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

This is the most unappealing thread on Ratz. Except for the "Gentlemen, get yer kits off!" thread, of course.

[Pappa]

An ex-member of this forum appeared in court, charged with sexually abusing his nephew several decades previously. The case was thrown out due to the risk of an unsafe verdict.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

An ex-member of this forum appeared in court, charged with sexually abusing his nephew several decades previously. The case was thrown out due to the risk of an unsafe verdict.

WTF is an "unsafe verdict"?

[Sean Hayden]

It sounds like they want to protect the child. Perhaps if found not guilty it is more difficult to provide assistance to the child e.g. supervised visits only etc.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It sounds like they want to protect the child. Perhaps if found not guilty it is more difficult to provide assistance to the child e.g. supervised visits only etc.

Okay, so a verdict that would be detrimental to the child's welfare. k

[Audley Strange]

Check your privilege.

Sha-mon!

[devogue]

An ex-member of this forum appeared in court, charged with sexually abusing his nephew several decades previously. The case was thrown out due to the risk of an unsafe verdict.

So he was not guilty. Innocent.

Is he a voluntary ex-member? If not then according to the letter of the law he should be reinstated.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

An ex-member of this forum appeared in court, charged with sexually abusing his nephew several decades previously. The case was thrown out due to the risk of an unsafe verdict.

So he was not guilty. Innocent.

Is he a voluntary ex-member? If not then according to the letter of the law he should be reinstated.

The departure was caused by other events, not the court case.

[Pappa]

An ex-member of this forum appeared in court, charged with sexually abusing his nephew several decades previously. The case was thrown out due to the risk of an unsafe verdict.

WTF is an "unsafe verdict"?

In these kinds of cases the only evidence is usually witness testimony of event that occurred many years ago. The verdict would be considered unsafe because it would rely on believing either the witness' testimony or the defendant's testimony. Any of the testimonies could be fabricated or faulty (due to the passage of time).

[Sean Hayden]

Ah, that makes sense.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

An ex-member of this forum appeared in court, charged with sexually abusing his nephew several decades previously. The case was thrown out due to the risk of an unsafe verdict.

WTF is an "unsafe verdict"?

In these kinds of cases the only evidence is usually witness testimony of event that occurred many years ago. The verdict would be considered unsafe because it would rely on believing either the witness' testimony or the defendant's testimony. Any of the testimonies could be fabricated or faulty (due to the passage of time).

Ah, alles klar! Danke.