Uninsured Father Dies of Toothache

[Seth]

I wonder if the dentist who told him he needed the tooth pulled also told him he could die if he didn't. If not, I'm sure the guy never imagined he'd end up dying from a toothache. If he had limited funds and it was a choice, at least for the time being, of buying either the pain meds or the antibiotic, then I'm sure the pain meds seemed the more immediate concern if he was in terrible pain.

Well, if the ER doctor didn't tell him that, then his family should sue the ER doctor for malpractice.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Health insurance? I have mine

Tehehe

UK Father-of-five died after a tooth fell out

A father-of-five died after ignoring a dentist's advice to go to hospital to get treatment for a tooth infection.

Ian Durkin, 42, refused to get medical help after his tooth fell out because he believed the problem was not serious.

But nine days later, Mr Durkin, from Oldham, was found unconscious in bed after the infection spread through his body, an inquest heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... octor.html

[Seth]

Health insurance? I have mine

Tehehe

UK Father-of-five died after a tooth fell out

A father-of-five died after ignoring a dentist's advice to go to hospital to get treatment for a tooth infection.

Ian Durkin, 42, refused to get medical help after his tooth fell out because he believed the problem was not serious.

But nine days later, Mr Durkin, from Oldham, was found unconscious in bed after the infection spread through his body, an inquest heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... octor.html

Another grand success for socialized medicine in the UK!

I told you so.

[Lozzer]

Health insurance? I have mine

Tehehe

UK Father-of-five died after a tooth fell out

A father-of-five died after ignoring a dentist's advice to go to hospital to get treatment for a tooth infection.

Ian Durkin, 42, refused to get medical help after his tooth fell out because he believed the problem was not serious.

But nine days later, Mr Durkin, from Oldham, was found unconscious in bed after the infection spread through his body, an inquest heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... octor.html

Another grand success for socialized medicine in the UK!

I told you so.

He had a choice to seek further medical attention, but he didn't. Hardly a failing of socialism, but it goes to show that it isn't as authoritarian as you purport it to be.

[Seth]

Health insurance? I have mine

Tehehe

UK Father-of-five died after a tooth fell out

A father-of-five died after ignoring a dentist's advice to go to hospital to get treatment for a tooth infection.

Ian Durkin, 42, refused to get medical help after his tooth fell out because he believed the problem was not serious.

But nine days later, Mr Durkin, from Oldham, was found unconscious in bed after the infection spread through his body, an inquest heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... octor.html

Another grand success for socialized medicine in the UK!

I told you so.

He had a choice to seek further medical attention, but he didn't. Hardly a failing of socialism, but it goes to show that it isn't as authoritarian as you purport it to be.

Nonsense. It's absolutely authoritarian, just not in this case. It's authoritarian because it forces everyone to labor on behalf of other people's bad health and lifestyle decisions, or their bad luck.

The point however is that many people die of tooth infections not because they cannot get care, but because they choose not to get care. This is in part a result of the fear that many people have of the dentist, and has little to do with whether or not the government is paying for dental care. Mr. Durkin had care at his fingertips, but chose not to avail himself of it. So did the other guy.

Again, sad, but not so sad as to be rational justification for enslaving others to their service by instituting socialized medicine.

[Schneibster]

It's absolutely authoritarian, just not in this case.

[Pappa]

I'm betting he could afford both, but was just too parsimonious and too stupid to take care of his health rather than buying cigarettes, lotto tickets, or crack.

If he truly "couldn't afford" his medication, then he clearly couldn't afford to eat, and yet he did not starve to death. It would have cost him the equivalent of a couple of missed meals to buy the antibiotics, but evidently he preferred to eat.

Nor, do I suspect, did he go to a charity hospital and tell them he couldn't afford the antibiotics, in which case they would have been given to him for free, as a life-saving measure. Pride goeth before a fall...and stupidity is its own reward.

Oh man.... that's so absurdly presumptuous it's unreal.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Nonsense. It's absolutely authoritarian, just not in this case. It's authoritarian because it forces everyone to labor on behalf of other people's bad health and lifestyle decisions, or their bad luck.

You make this stuff up as you go along, don't you?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

He had a choice to seek further medical attention, but he didn't. Hardly a failing of socialism, but it goes to show that it isn't as authoritarian as you purport it to be.

Didn't the guy in the OP also have the choice to seek further medical attention?

[Lozzer]

He had a choice to seek further medical attention, but he didn't. Hardly a failing of socialism, but it goes to show that it isn't as authoritarian as you purport it to be.

Didn't the guy in the OP also have the choice to seek further medical attention?

Yes, as is the 'choice' in a capitalised system:

You either have the money to afford it, or you don't.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Yes, as is the 'choice' in a capitalised system:

You either have the money to afford it, or you don't.

Well, tooth extraction is not very expensive, and if he was poor our government would pay for his tooth extraction.

The fact that government funded tooth extraction was not an option denotes that he could afford the tooth extraction.

[tattuchu]

Yes, as is the 'choice' in a capitalised system:

You either have the money to afford it, or you don't.

Well, tooth extraction is not very expensive, and if he was poor our government would pay for his tooth extraction.

The fact that government funded tooth extraction was not an option denotes that he could afford the tooth extraction.

I've never heard of the government paying for dental work. How does one apply, qualify, and get approved for such a thing? And how long might that take? See, I'm sure the guy didn't plan on fucking DYING in the meantime If it were that easy to get it for free, the dentist would have pulled it to begin with. My dentist requires payment up front before they'll even touch you. You don't have insurance? You don't have cash? There's the door.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I've never heard of the government paying for dental work.

Medicaid

https://www.cms.gov/medicaiddentalcoverage/

[JEROME DA GNOME]

http://jfs.ohio.gov/ohp/consumers/benefits.stm

Dental
Service Who should have this service? How often?
Regular dental check-up and cleaning All recipients except Disability Assistance Every 180 days (6 months) for children (younger than age 21).
Every 365 days (12 months) for adults (age 21 and older).
Fillings/Extractions All recipients except Disability Assistance As needed
Dentures All recipients except Disability Assistance. Dentures and partial plates must be prior authorized by the state. They may be replaced every 8 years.
Braces Must be prior authorized by the State. The State approves braces only in extreme cases and only for children younger than age 21.
Root Canals Adults may have Anterior (front teeth only) root canals.
No restrictions on children.
No coverage under Disability Assistance. As needed

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I've never heard of the government paying for dental work.

Medicaid

https://www.cms.gov/medicaiddentalcoverage/

The VA pays for dental if you're 100% or have service related dental problems. Like getting butt-stroked by an AK.