Weird, dumbass and hypocritical political statements...

[Coito ergo sum]

There's a difference between those pictures you dug up and the one my friend photographed at the Tea Party rally.

The first kind is the "rule" at teabagger rallies, the others are the "exceptions" to the rule at liberal protests.

Not only that, but those anti=bush signs could easily have been held by people from all over the world, not just the US.

Oh, they're in the US - hangman's nooses and beheading photos in Denver and Minneapolis....

On the Craig Kilborn show in the US:

[Coito ergo sum]

I recall a lot of outrage about the Obama-joker images....

Not much about the execute Bush stuff though....



A lot of the funny pictures show tea partiers comparing Obama to a Marxist - or calling him a Marxist, etc., and claiming that "he had a dream - we got a nightmare" type stuff.... all quite wacky, but where are the "hang Obama" images? Are the tea partiers burning him in effigy? calling for his murder?

When was the tone "civil and respectful"?

[Chinaski]

Yeah, except that what Bush's being accused of is in fact true, whereas Obama's alleged terrorism and fascist/commie/marxist/islamic conspiracy is utter bullshit...

You can try to throw shit on the left for a few violent asses being a bit hypocritical, but you can't escape the fact that what Bush did fucked the country up to an extent that is still difficult to grasp now. Read George Monbiot's "Bring On The Apocalypse", it's a wonderful piece of journalism.

[Chinaski]

That's just too dumb to be racist.

[Coito ergo sum]

Yeah, except that what Bush's being accused of is in fact true, whereas Obama's alleged terrorism and fascist/commie/marxist/islamic conspiracy is utter bullshit...

LOL...of course...of course...your opinion is "true."

Plus, the images were not of accusations - just him being hanged, shot, his murder suborned, etc.

You can try to throw shit on the left for a few violent asses being a bit hypocritical,

You can try the same thing towards the Republicans.

but you can't escape the fact that what Bush did fucked the country up to an extent that is still difficult to grasp now. Read George Monbiot's "Bring On The Apocalypse", it's a wonderful piece of journalism.

I'm sure it's wonderful.

Don't get upset. The fact is that the left is quite often violent, disrespectful, compares Bush to Hitler and a fascist, and calls for his death, his hanging, etc.

You may think that it's justified because you think Bush was a fascist. However, just because you believe it (a) doesn't make it true, and (b) doesn't mean others can't think the opposite. Moreover, you may not think Obama is a socialist or "leading us down the road" to socialism, but some others do. And, their opinion is no less "true" than your opinion that Bush was a fascist or a new Hitler.

The difference is - you don't see threats on Obama's life like you did see regarding Bush. The signs and shirts are comical and hyperbolic, but to say that NOW the rhetoric has gotten bad, and that when the Bushes were in office it was so collegial and civil is just plain, flat out false.

The left, since the 1960s at least, has been quite violent. Look at the anti-globalization protests where socialists and other left wing groups turn over cars, break windows and carry signs about how Bush and others should be murdered. It's not uncommon. Recall the riots in Seattle....

[Ian]

Well, Coito's convinced me.

All those left-wing hippie types are really violent, vitriolic thugs.

It's really the right-wing folks who want harmony & understanding in America. Not to mention how shockingly well-informed they are!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

C.E.S., you think the "Peace Movement" was violent? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

[Ian]

C.E.S., you think the "Peace Movement" was violent? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

He's 20. How well do you think he really understands the world around him?

[Coito ergo sum]

Left wing protest:



Good thing they're not carrying insulting signs...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

C.E.S., you think the "Peace Movement" was violent? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

He's 20. How well do you think he really understands the world around him?

We need more graphic novels on historical matters.

[Coito ergo sum]

C.E.S., you think the "Peace Movement" was violent? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Generally, no, it wasn't violent. However, it was quite often violent in some instances, like the 1968 DNC protests in Chicago.





And, left wingers are far more prone to use violence over the last 50 years than right leaning folks. Look at the anti-war protests when Bush the Elder went into Kuwait. I saw protests in NYC where people were throwing things, turning over cars and setting fires.

All over the world leftists engage in violence at all the G-20 (or G-whatever) meetings, and "Black Bloc" organized groups are quite violent - and organized to be violent.

[Coito ergo sum]

C.E.S., you think the "Peace Movement" was violent? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

He's 20. How well do you think he really understands the world around him?

We need more graphic novels on historical matters.

That way you folks with myopia can learn something.

[Chinaski]

Yeah, except that what Bush's being accused of is in fact true, whereas Obama's alleged terrorism and fascist/commie/marxist/islamic conspiracy is utter bullshit...

LOL...of course...of course...your opinion is "true."

Plus, the images were not of accusations - just him being hanged, shot, his murder suborned, etc.

You can try to throw shit on the left for a few violent asses being a bit hypocritical,

You can try the same thing towards the Republicans.

but you can't escape the fact that what Bush did fucked the country up to an extent that is still difficult to grasp now. Read George Monbiot's "Bring On The Apocalypse", it's a wonderful piece of journalism.

I'm sure it's wonderful.

Don't get upset. The fact is that the left is quite often violent, disrespectful, compares Bush to Hitler and a fascist, and calls for his death, his hanging, etc.

You may think that it's justified because you think Bush was a fascist. However, just because you believe it (a) doesn't make it true, and (b) doesn't mean others can't think the opposite. Moreover, you may not think Obama is a socialist or "leading us down the road" to socialism, but some others do. And, their opinion is no less "true" than your opinion that Bush was a fascist or a new Hitler.

The difference is - you don't see threats on Obama's life like you did see regarding Bush. The signs and shirts are comical and hyperbolic, but to say that NOW the rhetoric has gotten bad, and that when the Bushes were in office it was so collegial and civil is just plain, flat out false.

The left, since the 1960s at least, has been quite violent. Look at the anti-globalization protests where socialists and other left wing groups turn over cars, break windows and carry signs about how Bush and others should be murdered. It's not uncommon. Recall the riots in Seattle....

1) Were Bush and co. to be tried in a war tribunal, they'd be found guilty of crimes against humanity and executed. Were they to be tried by the Strasbourg court, they'd get life in prison.

2) The left-wing media does not call for violence. It doesn't deliberately mislead and mangle facts for its own political agenda. Unlike the right wing media. I'm referring to mainstream tv channels in the states- of course Bolshevik Underground Radio is going to be different. -.-''

3) The outrage against people like the Tea Party Protesters isn't due to a sense of "how dare they criticize the president!", it's due to frustration at seeing the democratic process being hijacked by demagoguery, ignorance and instinctive violence. Obama is much more of a socialist than his predecessor was- but socialism is NOT A BAD THING. Apart from that, his platform is, by objective standards, completely centrist. Bush's platform brought us much closer to a totalitarian state- the patriot act, an illegal war to divert from domestic issues, an abundance of moralizing non-issues like abortion and gay rights to polarize the electorate and FURTHER distract from real issues, etc. Calling Bush a fascist is a bit exaggerated, but by no means a long stretch of the imagination. The two positions are not on equal footing, nor do they deserve the same amount of respect as far as being "opinions" go.

4) Common protests regarding death panels and Obama's alleged Islamism, Communism, Fascism and Socialism, all at the same time (because apparently these things are not mutually exclusive >.<) abound among the teabaggers, and it doesn't matter how much you defend someone's "right to their opinion"- if they're wrong, they're wrong, and these people are so full of fucking shit it's unbelievable.

[Coito ergo sum]

C.E.S., you think the "Peace Movement" was violent? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

He's 20. How well do you think he really understands the world around him?

I can at least view it objectively.

[Coito ergo sum]

Well, Coito's convinced me.

All those left-wing hippie types are really violent, vitriolic thugs.

It's really the right-wing folks who want harmony & understanding in America. Not to mention how shockingly well-informed they are!

Well, I don't know if I'd call them "hippie types" but left wingers sure do have no issue with calling for people's death. The images here really do tell a story. It shows that you folks posting the pics of teabaggers and right wingers find images of people with silly signs, sometimes stupid ones, with hyperbole and such things as calling Obama a Marxist, asking for his birth certificate, etc.

The left wingers, however, quite often appear to be setting fire to images of their opponents, indicating they should be killed, hanging them in effigy, beheading them, etc.