The Coronavirus Thread

[Cunt]

So if someone jizzes on your dog, you can't catch the herp?

At least by your 'logic'...

If an infected human gets in contact with a cat, the day can get infected. The virus can then infect other cats and maybe even humans. The same is not true for dogs. The virus cannot live and multiply in dogs.

So the dogs collar, feces, fur and crusty old nose can not pass along the virus to you?

Sounds suspicious to me, but the dogs I have known are often indiscriminate with their social distancing.

[NineBerry]

If there's droplets of viruses on a dog, you touch those and then touch your mouth, nose or eyes, you can catch the virus. But this is really improbable. The droplets with viruses can't survive very long there.

[Cunt]

If there's droplets of viruses on a dog, you touch those and then touch your mouth, nose or eyes, you can catch the virus. But this is really improbable. The droplets with viruses can't survive very long there.

I'm not touching dogs anyway. Until they stop having 'eureka' moments with this (the W.H.O. said 'no human to human transmission' before they had such a eureka moment) I'm going to take stronger measures than are recommended. Part of my partners lab has been repurposed to produce stuff for this crisis. Makes me proud of her, but very distrustful of viruses and their knowing and unknowing agents (virus equivalents to 'useful idiots')

[L'Emmerdeur]

They put out an ill-advised tweet. On the same day, they said that though they didn't yet have a clear picture, there might be human-to-human transmission, and they put out a warning to hospitals worldwide regarding the novel coronavirus ('WHO says new China coronavirus could spread, warns hospitals worldwide'). China had reported 41 cases up to that date and one death. We now know that the Chinese were lying about human-to human transmission.

So yes, it's true there was a tweet that depended too heavily on information from the Chinese government, and failed to relay the full position of the WHO at that time. As more evidence became available the WHO changed its advice. Given the history of the Chinese government lying about this sort of thing, the WHO should have been less willing to trust their information. This failure may be due to the director of the WHO having too close a relationship with the Chinese government. If that's the case, he should be held accountable.

On the other hand, the WHO developed a test for the virus in a prompt manner, and the use of that test probably saved thousands of lives in places where it was adopted used effectively.

The narrative about this that's circulating in the right wing media bubble is simplistic--playing up the tweet while ignoring what else the WHO was saying at the same time.

[Sean Hayden]

Apparently South Korea has been prepping for massive testing for years, and they jumped at the chance to use that prep. I can't find whether or not they used the German recipe which was recommended by the WHO. I found one piece that claims they used it, but it doesn't list a source, and others claim Korea developed several of their own tests at various times. The WHO only had a limited number of actual tests which were to be given to countries unable to develop their own. Everyone that can, just makes their own.

[Cunt]

They put out an ill-advised tweet. On the same day, they said that though they didn't yet have a clear picture, there might be human-to-human transmission, and they put out a warning to hospitals worldwide regarding the novel coronavirus ('WHO says new China coronavirus could spread, warns hospitals worldwide'). China had reported 41 cases up to that date and one death. We now know that the Chinese were lying about human-to human transmission.

So yes, it's true there was a tweet that depended too heavily on information from the Chinese government, and failed to relay the full position of the WHO at that time. As more evidence became available the WHO changed its advice. Given the history of the Chinese government lying about this sort of thing, the WHO should have been less willing to trust their information. This failure may be due to the director of the WHO having too close a relationship with the Chinese government. If that's the case, he should be held accountable.

On the other hand, the WHO developed a test for the virus in a prompt manner, and the use of that test probably saved thousands of lives in places where it was adopted used effectively.

The narrative about this that's circulating in the right wing media bubble is simplistic--playing up the tweet while ignoring what else the WHO was saying at the same time.

When the errors cluster on one side, it starts looking like CCP control of the WHO. Did you see the video of the director being asked directly about Tiawan's approach?

He pretended not to hear the question, then cut the call. Then bluntly declined follow-up questions again.

It's pretty clear that there is something political going on there.

[Brian Peacock]

Dr Anthony Fauci, US infectious diseases chief, concurred that the US is "starting to see the levelling off and coming down" of cases and deaths.

...the US mortality rate is "significantly less than many of the other countries, when you correct them for our population".(Dr Birx)

Yeah, the % of deaths to confirmed cases is low, and the % of confirmed cases to population is tiny. What we're seeing in Europe though is a spike in the expected seasonal average mortality rate that goes beyond what can be accounted for by confirmed Covid-19 deaths alone.

I'm reminded of the UK government's line during the mad cow disease furore of the 80s when they repeatedly said that there was no scientific evidence to suggest that eating contaminated beef was dangerous - forgetting to mention that at that time no published studies had looked at that possibility. The fewer people that are tested the lower the mortality rate attributed to Covid-19 will be of course. That's why, in the absence of targetted info, epidemiologist are looking to broader datasets for their best guesses at the moment.

[Brian Peacock]

Who's a good boy?

You're a good boy... yes you are... yes you are... you're a good boy.... yes you are.

[NineBerry]

Apparently South Korea has been prepping for massive testing for years, and they jumped at the chance to use that prep. I can't find whether or not they used the German recipe which was recommended by the WHO. I found one piece that claims they used it, but it doesn't list a source, and others claim Korea developed several of their own tests at various times. The WHO only had a limited number of actual tests which were to be given to countries unable to develop their own. Everyone that can, just makes their own.

The guy who created the testing mechanism looks like Frodo Baggins.

[DRSB]

Reactivated? Like the anti-bodies changed sides?

South Korea Says Recovered Coronavirus Patients Test Positive Again
Health officials say the virus may have ‘reactivated’ in patients.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-repor ... tive-again

[NineBerry]

Apparently South Korea has been prepping for massive testing for years, and they jumped at the chance to use that prep. I can't find whether or not they used the German recipe which was recommended by the WHO. I found one piece that claims they used it, but it doesn't list a source, and others claim Korea developed several of their own tests at various times. The WHO only had a limited number of actual tests which were to be given to countries unable to develop their own. Everyone that can, just makes their own.

I think a lot of people misunderstand what it means that the US didn't use the WHO test. I think a lot of people think that the WHO offered to send over boxes of things that are tests. But what the WHO offered mainly is as you say the recipe that was developed at a German institution. With that recipe you can run the test in labs on hardware and using chemicals that are already there and are used for similar tasks.

From a nature article:

The World Health Organization (WHO) began warning governments to prepare for COVID-19 in January. The agency also vetted and distributed a German-developed PCR-based test for the virus. But rather than use this test, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) developed its own. For most of February, this was the only test permitted in the United States.

Another step — the one that leading scientists are best prepared to address — was working out the most reliable test to use. Many decided against the CDC’s version. “I don’t want to be disparaging, but the people who made the CDC kit simply failed at molecular biology — they created a nightmare,” says Urnov. He considered using the WHO’s recommended protocol, but worried about running out of essential components, because labs worldwide are using this test. Left and right, he says, researchers were talking about shortages. Urnov landed on a test developed by the biomedical company Thermo Fisher Scientific, headquartered in Waltham, Massachusetts, chiefly because the company’s scientific officer guaranteed that it would keep the institute in supplies.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01068-3

[laklak]

Townsend is a fucking pedo and Daltry looks like a mummy. Without Keef and John they are a pale shadow of their former selves.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Apparently South Korea has been prepping for massive testing for years, and they jumped at the chance to use that prep. I can't find whether or not they used the German recipe which was recommended by the WHO. I found one piece that claims they used it, but it doesn't list a source, and others claim Korea developed several of their own tests at various times. The WHO only had a limited number of actual tests which were to be given to countries unable to develop their own. Everyone that can, just makes their own.

A company in South Korea developed their test using AI and had it in production quickly.

'How this South Korean company created coronavirus test kits in three weeks'

Before there were any cases of novel coronavirus confirmed in South Korea, one of the country's biotech firms had begun preparing to make testing kits to identify the disease.

On January 16, Chun Jong-yoon, the chief executive and founder of molecular biotech company Seegene, told his team it was time to start focusing on coronavirus.

That was before the virus sweeping China had been named Covid-19 and four days ahead of South Korea confirming its first case.

"Even if nobody is asking us to, we are a molecular diagnosis company. We have to prepare in advance," he remembered thinking at the time.

Fast forward two months, and South Korea is among the world's worst affected countries, with more than 7,800 people infected, and more than 60 deaths.

But one reason why South Korea might have a higher number of infections than other countries is its aggressive approach to testing.

...

In the basement of Seegene's headquarters in Seoul lies the key to the company's coronavirus success.

There the company houses an artificial intelligence-based big data system, which has enabled the firm to quickly develop a test for coronavirus.

Tests known as assay kits are made up of several vials of chemical solutions. Samples are taken from patients and mixed with the solutions, which react if certain genes are present.

Without the computer, it would have taken the team two to three months to develop such a test, said Chun. This time, it was done in a matter of weeks.

By January 24, the scientists had ordered the raw materials they needed for the test kits. Four days later, they arrived. On February 5, the first version of the test was ready.

It was only the third time the company had used its super computer -- rather than its research and development team working manually -- to design a test. It had previously used the system to make diagnosis kits for urethritis, the inflammation of the urethra. The company was able to design the test using only the genetic details that had been released about the virus, and without having a sample of Covid-19.

[Brian Peacock]

Townsend is a fucking pedo and Daltry looks like a mummy. Without Keef and John they are a pale shadow of their former selves.

Word.

[Tero]

Townsend is a fucking pedo and Daltry looks like a mummy. Without Keef and John they are a pale shadow of their former selves.

I used that already. See my sig. Kari Report. Only not in that manner.
Townsend claims he was abused by a crazy granny when he was a kid. Thus we get Tommy.