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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:43 am

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Things would be so much better, if backward hicks didn't keep using coal.
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Factually incorrect information posted by our member from Yellowknife. Why am I not surprised?
As of July 2019, the Global Coal Plant Tracker shows:

Within the 28 European Union countries, there are 268 coal-fired power plants in operation, with 7 in construction and 8 in pre-construction.
Turkey has 29 plants in operation, with 2 in construction and 31 in preconstruction.
South Africa has 19 plants in operation, with 2 in construction and 5 in preconstruction.
India has 291 plants in operation, with 33 in construction and 41 in preconstruction.
Philippines has 21 plants in operation, with 8 in construction and 19 in preconstruction.
South Korea has 24 plants in operation, with 3 in construction and 1 in preconstruction.
Japan has 83 plants in operation, with 15 in construction and 5 in preconstruction.
China has 1032 plants in operation, with 126 in construction and 76 in preconstruction.
Australia has 20 plants in operation, with 0 in construction and 2 in preconstruction.

Excluding Australia, the countries listed have 1767 operational coal-fired power plants and a further 196 under construction, for a total of 1963.
https://factcheck.afp.com/these-figures ... inaccurate

Needless to say, there are no plans in Australia to close any coal plants for any reason other than that they have reached their use by date, and these decisions are not made by our government or public opinion. They are made exclusively by their respective owners.

As for our heroic government, it is actively attempting to prevent planned closures of coal fired electricity generators, as AGL discovered when it announced that it will close its Liddell power stations in 2022. The government tried to strongarm the owners into keeping the plants operating for several more years. The owners insisted that such a project makes no economic sense, but compromised by spending enough money to keep them running until 2023.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:49 am

That doesn't sound like denialism.

Also, if you aren't commenting on interesting subjects, I'm not going to show much interest. I will help you find a fact-check button for this 'climate change denialism' thread though.

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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:10 am

Cunt wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:49 am
That doesn't sound like denialism.
Nor does the meme you posted. ;)
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:06 pm

You're probably right. Coal plants have little to do with climate change. It's just a creative way to burn less wood when making energy.

And to get some rare earths maybe.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:28 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:06 pm
You're probably right. Coal plants have little to do with climate change. It's just a creative way to burn less wood when making energy.

And to get some rare earths maybe.
I don't suppose the possibility that gradually replacing coal fired electricity generators with wind and photovoltaic powered plants has occurred to you. The process will not replace all fossil fuel powered electricity generators in the short term and probably not in the medium term, but right at this moment those sources are providing more than a third of all of South Australia's electricity requirements, reducing the release of millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere even after taking into account the CO2 cost of producing the necessary equipment to begin with. People who regard all this as a waste of money are climate change denialists.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:34 pm

Hermit wrote:
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People who regard all this as a waste of money are climate change denialists.
Yeah, and I bet you wish you could find someone...anyone to disagree with you.

Won't be me though. I'm just enjoying the 'climate change denialism' thread for memes, and your endlessly funny fact-checking gag.

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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:36 pm

Getting back to the subject at hand -

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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:03 pm

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I'm just enjoying the 'climate change denialism' thread for memes, and your endlessly funny fact-checking gag.
Do tell me something I don't already know. Your contempt for and disregard of facts have been abundantly obvious for ages, and whenever you do attempt to employ any in order to assist whatever you try to advocate you invariably get them wrong. No wonder you are reduced to flooding the forum with memes. Some of them are quite funny, to be sure, but none of them support whatever point you're trying to make. It's not what jokes are designed to do.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:14 pm

All jokes are a kind of proposition. The denialist memes essentially propose inaction and business as usual.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:36 pm

Hermit wrote:
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none of them support whatever point you're trying to make
The only real 'points' I try to make here, are fitness related, so nothing you would be interested in. Your participation here is about MUCH more important things, I think.

But getting back to the subject at hand...

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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:44 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:14 pm
All jokes are a kind of proposition. The denialist memes essentially propose inaction and business as usual.
Yes, they offer support on an emotional level for whatever argument they are meant to assist, and on that level they are more effective than offering facts. It's not a feature I have respect for. Nor can I find much respect for people who use memes as their primary tool in their attempts to make a point.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:46 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:36 pm
Hermit wrote:
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none of them support whatever point you're trying to make
The only real 'points' I try to make here, are fitness related...
Surely, there must be a thread for making them somewhere in this forum.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:49 pm

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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:44 pm
Nor can I find much respect for people who use memes as their primary tool in their attempts to make a point.
Today, I wish you improved cardio, increased strength and good nutrition. That's simple respect for your humanity.

Unless of course being healthier isn't interesting to you, then I'll let you keep looking for someone...anyone to disagree with you on other topics.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Hermit » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:41 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:49 pm
Hermit wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:44 pm
Nor can I find much respect for people who use memes as their primary tool in their attempts to make a point.
Today, I wish you improved cardio, increased strength and good nutrition.
Is this the improved cardio, increased strength and good nutrition thread now? No matter. I thank you, and in return I wish you'll be at least as healthy as I am today if you get to the age I am in now. With only 30 years to go, or thereabouts, my wish for you might just come true. Who knows? I certainly won't find out unless I get near "celebrating" my centenary year, an event I'd rather fall short of by a decade or two.
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Cunt » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:00 pm

Hermit wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:41 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:49 pm
Hermit wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:44 pm
Nor can I find much respect for people who use memes as their primary tool in their attempts to make a point.
Today, I wish you improved cardio, increased strength and good nutrition.
Is this the improved cardio, increased strength and good nutrition thread now? No matter. I thank you, and in return I wish you'll be at least as healthy as I am today if you get to the age I am in now. With only 30 years to go, or thereabouts, my wish for you might just come true. Who knows? I certainly won't find out unless I get near "celebrating" my centenary year, an event I'd rather fall short of by a decade or two.
Thanks, and DO IT! I would be pretty happy to start my 2040 trail race, only to find you there and ready to beat me. (yes, I remember your joint peculiarities, but prosthetics/robotics/x-factors march on)

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