Airplane and airline stuff

[macdoc]

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ ... index.html

[Tero]

I did not want to google this when still traveling but one engine is fine.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/travel/article/ ... index.html
If two Canada Geese fly into two engines, though...

[L'Emmerdeur]

NASA's going to try the truss wing.



'NASA’s newest X-plane wants to save the planet'

There’s a new NASA X-plane in town, and like its predecessors, it’s a little bit goofy-looking. Unlike most of the space agency’s experimental aircraft, however, the new X-plane isn’t built to break speed barriers, carry astronauts, or test the possibilities of unmanned air combat. This one is designed to fight climate change.

NASA and Boeing announced on Tuesday that the Air Force had designated a new transonic, truss-winged aircraft as the X-66A. The design is a product of the Sustainable Flight Demonstrator project, a NASA-Boeing partnership to produce a single-aisle plane that promises to slash fuel consumption for commercial aircraft. The new aircraft looks like a giant glider with long, skinny wings propped up by diagonal struts to reduce drag. If widely adopted, the truss-winged design could transform sustainable air travel as we know it. The new X-66A is also the first X-plane designed specifically to achieve the goal of net-zero greenhouse gas emissions for airplanes.

[Tero]

Japan airplane runway crash
https://www.threads.net/@bigbreakingwir ... 1l8AZbhWhc

[Brian Peacock]

[Tero]

I'd like to have it in production in the 2nd Trump administration. He will have lots of press conferences.

Simialr to the aircraft carrier stuff
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-nav ... echnology/

[Tero]

The 737s are an old line of planes. Airlines wanted them as old 737 pilots can fly any newwer 727 model. Not sure what Airbus they would buy to get the same kind of plane. The engines are bigger than original 737s now that the smaller planes fly greater distances.

United Airlines said it now expects its fleet of Boeing Max 9 jets to remain grounded through the end of this month, and that the company will report a first quarter loss in the range of $116 million to $262 million. That’s more than the $138 million loss already forecast by analysts surveyed by Refinitiv.

United has 79 of the Max 9s, more than any other airline, and had originally scheduled nearly 8,000 flights with the plane for this month before the incident, according to Cirium, an aviation analytics firm.

Beyond the current 737 Max 9 problem is what this means for Boeing’s orders for the 737 Max 10, a newer, larger version and more expensive version of the 737 Max that has yet to be certified by the FAA. It will be at least five years in a best case scenario before Boeing can delivery those Max 10 jets to United, Kirby said, and the airline is now no longer counting on getting that plane in the future.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/23/business ... index.html

[macdoc]

Bought a model of the Concorde to go with our Blackbird.




Keep the memory fresh

[Tero]

Twin tuboprop crashes in Brazil
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94133.html

[Sean Hayden]

Bought a model of the Concorde to go with our Blackbird.




Keep the memory fresh

I’ve got to get to the Smithsonian to see the Blackbird.

[macdoc]

and many other things. The scale of the shuttle ( partner standing under it ) is mind bending. Every plane except the Learjet was flown into Dulles Airport ( the shuttle on the back of the 747 transport ) Magnificent facility and all free.





Enola Gay, Concorde ( which I've flown on ) and

My fav sailplane Grob Single which I spent many happy hours flying. One THE best institutions.

[macdoc]

This is crazy - passenger plane in a flat spin. 61 dead. You can see the flat spin in the video.
The plane falls straight down with little or no forward motion.

Was down to 40 knots = zero aerodynamic control.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news ... index.html
snip

The timeline: The aircraft took off shortly before noon local time, flight tracking data shows. The plane had been cruising at 17,000 feet until 1:21 p.m. local time when it dropped approximately 250 feet in 10 seconds. It then climbed approximately 400 feet in about eight seconds. Eight seconds later, it lost just under 2,000 feet. Then, in approximately one minute, it began rapidly descending — roughly 17,000 feet in just one minute.

lucky day for 10

A man who missed the flight told Brazilian news outlet Globo that at least 10 people were waiting at the wrong gate and missed the flight before it took off.

“They said to me, ‘Mister, you’re not getting on this plane because we’re already past the boarding limit.’ I even pressured them a little. ‘Mister, put me on this plane, I have to go,’ then he said, ‘There’s no way, what I can do is rebook your ticket,’” the man told Globo.

When they realized they were at the wrong gate, the passengers begged the airport employees to board the plane but were told they could not.

my B-law is a Qantas pilot and I'm a once sailplane pilot and neither of us can sort how this plane got into a flat spin at 17,000' and 40 knots.
Engines were running ....wtf

[JimC]

This whole thread seems to be designed to reinforce my fear of flying...

[macdoc]

[Tero]

This whole thread seems to be designed to reinforce my fear of flying...

There have only been 5000 deaths from Boeing 737s crashing since the 60s*. Only two of the 737MAX models have crashed in the first couple of years and one lost a "window." It is what they call a door plug. The hulls are all identical, and most customers want the door plug there and not the real door.

*So only what..one death per million flights?