Prof: Algebra, geometry perpetuate white privilege

[Seabass]

Well, your suggestion is noted. And, I have explained several times that I do not have an obsession with it, but I have an interest. I find it entertaining. I find it fascinating. I find it fascinating for the same reason I find religious fanatics and creationists, etc., fascinating and interesting - it's not that I imbue them with an overblown importance on the world - I think creationists have little real importance, but I am nevertheless fascinated by what they believe, and why they believe it.

The entire GOP are creationists, and they control the government and military of the most powerful country in the world. The "fringe loony left" in America throw bottles and sticks and break the occasional store window, and have been known to take political correctness a bit too far.

I think you are worried about the wrong things.

Well, i think you're wrong about "the entire GOP," and I think you minimize what the fringe loony left does. However, I think you worry about the wrong things, but that has no real relevance to the discussions of these kinds of threads. Discuss what you're interested in.

And, I am not in the least "worried" about the loony left - I am amused. I am entertained. I am fascinated. I am amused at their behavior (a more recent example is the other day when they had "scream at the sky" day and went out in public to holler their "barbaric yawp" at the sky express their displeasure to the world). I am entertained, because discussions of the looney left are fun for me. And, I am fascinated, again, because I sincerely do try to understand how anyone of normal intelligence can actually find their positions persuasive - so much so, that just like with religious loons, that their conviction and certainty give me this 1% pause - this nagging tap on the shoulder -- that I must - must -- literally MUST be missing something in what they're saying. Because how can arguments so bizarre, so internally inconsistent, and so illogical actually be accepted by the people making them?

Republicans are totally divorced from reality. These people should not be in positions of power. If you think the "fringe loony left's" tendency to go a little overboard with political correctness is bigger cause for concern, then you are completely and totally bananas.



58% of Republicans are young-earth creationists.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold- ... igins.aspx

68% of Republicans believe in demonic possession.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... esults.pdf

58% of Republicans and Republican leaning independents say that colleges are bad for America.
http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/10/ ... stitutions

Only 45% of Trump voters believe that Trump Jr. met with Russians, even after he publicly admitted to it.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... ussia.html

52% of Republicans think Trump won the popular vote.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... ular-vote/

54% of Republicans believe that Obama is a muslim.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... _90115.pdf

41% of Republicans do not believe Obama was born in the US.
An additional 31% of Republicans have doubts about Obama’s citizenship.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e ... on-n627446

43% of Republicans say there is a lot of discrimination against whites, while 27% say there is a lot of discrimination against blacks.
https://www.prri.org/spotlight/republic ... imination/

31% of Trump supporters support building a wall on the eastern seaboard to prevent migrants from entering the US via the Atlantic Ocean.
http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-tru ... all-2016-8

79 percent of people who voted for President Trump say he should remain even if collusion is proven, and 75 percent said the entire Russia story is “fake news."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ld-stay-in

52% of Republicans would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump recommended it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... oposed-it/

[Rum]

I think America, rather than Republicans are the problem. To possess common sense, a rational and sceptical outlook, informed by education, reason and respect for expertise have been redefined, amazingly, as 'liberal' and 'elitist' - even 'socialist'. It's a fucking shame, but an astonishing achievement, driven of course, mostly by money.

America will fade pretty quickly now if this is not reversed.

[Seabass]

I think America, rather than Republicans are the problem. To possess common sense, a rational and sceptical outlook, informed by education, reason and respect for expertise have been redefined, amazingly, as 'liberal' and 'elitist' - even 'socialist'. It's a fucking shame, but an astonishing achievement, driven of course, mostly by money.

America will fade pretty quickly now if this is not reversed.

No, not all of us are hostile to education and expertise. That kind of sentiment exists primarily on the religious right.

[Brian Peacock]

Where's the non-religious right in the US? From over here it looks like God is pretty much a feature and a fixture of right-leaning politics.

[Seabass]

That's why they're called the "religious right".

[pErvinalia]

From the Guardian, among other mainstream publications. I'm not claiming the Guardian is a bullshit clickbait source. You are.

You just can't help yourself thinking in false dichotomies, can you? They aren't saying that the Guardian is a bullshit clickbait source. They are saying that there is some clickbait in it. That doesn't mean the whole publication is clickbait. The same as how having some articles that are considered reasonably far left doesn't make the whole publication far left.

[pErvinalia]

The question where those stories are published and how you find them are two different ones.

He knows that. He's just trying to dig himself out of the hole he's found himself in. He does this all the time. Make's a ridiculous statement and then when he gets called on it, instead of retracting he'll argue that black is white until he can't sustain it any longer and then he'll try and blame you for derailing the topic.

[Animavore]

Where's the non-religious right in the US? From over here it looks like God is pretty much a feature and a fixture of right-leaning politics.

There's a non-religious right on this thread. And his position makes no sense. He supports, either directly, or indirectly by supporting Republicans, spending tax payer money on faith schools. He supports anti-women measures. He supports anti-wildlife measures and allowing endangered species to die based on the idea of human exceptionalism which only makes sense if you deny, ignore, or don't properly understand evolution by natural selection. He supports the deliberate dissemination of anti-science propaganda because ideology trumps our climate. He supports the censoring and scrapping of science projects. He supports environmental vandalism based on the shoddy idea from Genesis that humans are the wardens of the planet. He supports debunked trickle-down economics. He supports irrational, homophobic laws based in out-dated, teleological, natural law. He supports Randianism and scrapping healthcare based on a misinterpretation of Darwinism which forgets that primates are social creatures who thrive on reciprocal altruism, that we're not like polar bears living as solidary creatures. He supports racial discrimination and Eurocentricism, again based on an archaic 'Chain of Being' which Darwin made irrelevant 150 years ago.

Want to know where to find more non-religious right? Read up on the Sam Harris and Pat Condell-quoting Alt Right.

Non-religious Republicans make no sense. None. Zero.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, but when it comes to active politics being a Christian, and preferably an evangelical Christian of some hue, seems a prerequisite for nomination and office.

[Animavore]

Well yes. Though it's the same for The Dems also, mostly. Though that could be changing.

The Repubs represent the most extreme and counter-factual form of Christianity going. Literal creation. End Times. Abstinence only sex ed. Indoctrinating children in school. Paddling children. Defined and oppressive gender roles. Homophobia. Anti-science beliefs. Eye for an eye justice. An ahistorical account of American history which puts Christianity at the centre.


It's hard for me to understand how you could be an atheist and support this party at the same time. Especially when this party certainly does not support you. Unless you're an example of being able to take the atheist out of the Christianity, but not the Christianity out of the atheist. And have no problem selling out your own if/when the theocratic state happens. Like the Jews who colluded with the Nazis.

[Brian Peacock]

I guess we should note that, despite and regardless of the rhetoric to the contrary, the Democrats are not a left-leaning political entity - far from it in fact. They're just less overtly right-wing that the other lot, but they're still broadly neo-liberal conservatives.

[Animavore]

Breitbart. Heh.



No grounds to mock other sources of news when this is where you get yours from.

[pErvinalia]

Breitbart is left-wing. Far left-wing. Not as far left as the Guardian and Pravda, though.

[Rum]

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[Seabass]

I guess we should note that, despite and regardless of the rhetoric to the contrary, the Democrats are not a left-leaning political entity - far from it in fact. They're just less overtly right-wing that the other lot, but they're still broadly neo-liberal conservatives.

I don't think that's entirely fair. We only have two parties, so they have to cover a broader portion of the political spectrum than they would in a multi-party system. Surely the Bernie wing of the Democratic party would be considered left even in Europe? Not to mention all those who would like to vote Green or Socialist but don't because those options simply aren't viable in this country. I voted Nader/Green in 2000 and as soon as Bush won, I knew I'd made a mistake. You have to take vote splitting into account in a two party system. The Greens had a good turnout that year and Gore lost by the tiniest of margins.