Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Rum]

Not it hasn't.

In other unbiased news, the EU has just agreed the 'deal'. Whether our Parliament will is another matter. At this point it is probably the lesser of all the many evils on offer.

[Brian Peacock]

The deal is done. Juncker had a message for UK MPs, and a particularly pointed one for the Brexitarian fantasists who think the government should renegotiate the settlement, and the Remainers in Parliament who might vote down the deal.

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The European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, said: “I would vote in favour of this deal because this is the best deal possible for Britain.

“I’m sad because watching the UK … leaving the EU is not a moment for jubilation but a moment of deep sadness and we make everything possible in order to have this divorce being as smooth as possible. but there are no smooth divorces.

“This is the deal, it’s the best deal possible and the EU will not change its fundamental position when it comes to this issue so I do think the British parliament – because this is a wise parliament – will ratify this deal.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... _clipboard

Take it or leave it - that's all you're getting folks.

[Scot Dutchy]

Not it hasn't.

In other unbiased news, the EU has just agreed the 'deal'. Whether our Parliament will is another matter. At this point it is probably the lesser of all the many evils on offer.

Unbiased? Since when Rum? The UK is fucked either way you look at it. Expect a massive emigration of EU citizens next. The UK is definitely not the place to be.

[Scot Dutchy]

Brexiters accuse May of Gibraltar betrayal ‘under cover of darkness’

Concession ‘may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back’, according to former David Davis aide

Theresa May has been accused of betrayal after giving way to Spain’s demands over the future of Gibraltar, a disputed British overseas territory, in the latest concession designed to keep the Brexit deal on track. With the Spanish prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, threatening to veto May’s deal at Sunday’s leaders’ summit in Brussels, the British government was forced to publicly concede on Saturday that Gibraltar will not necessarily be covered by a future trade deal

[Not the Beeb]

[rainbow]

Gibraltar should change its status to a crown dependency, like the Isle of Man. That would allow it to make its own relationship with the EU, and keep its open border with Spain, while the residents remain British citizens.

[Rum]

The deal is done. Juncker had a message for UK MPs, and a particularly pointed one for the Brexitarian fantasists who think the government should renegotiate the settlement, and the Remainers in Parliament who might vote down the deal.

...

The European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, said: “I would vote in favour of this deal because this is the best deal possible for Britain.

“I’m sad because watching the UK … leaving the EU is not a moment for jubilation but a moment of deep sadness and we make everything possible in order to have this divorce being as smooth as possible. but there are no smooth divorces.

“This is the deal, it’s the best deal possible and the EU will not change its fundamental position when it comes to this issue so I do think the British parliament – because this is a wise parliament – will ratify this deal.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... _clipboard

Take it or leave it - that's all you're getting folks.

If Parliament doesn't vote to ratify it there will be chaos and the public won't forgive them for a long time. Not that they probably give a shit.

[Rum]

Once again Rum knows it all. FFS you are beginning to become irritating.
Spain has gained control over Gibraltar. NOS Nieuws. Who believes the Beeb anymore? Breibart? Infowars? Fox?

The reason most sane people believe it is relatively impartial is that people with extreme views, such as yourself and also the right and left of politics as well as those in power (whichever side it happens to be) all believe it is biased in favour of those with views opposed to their own. A good sign they are doing something right.

In terms of most trusted TV news sources, it comes out top pretty consistently.

[Scot Dutchy]

It used to be but you are unable yo see it. It is classified in the same breath as all pro Brexit sources. Biased is not the word. It is more Daily Mail than Guardian especially the European correspondent. She like May cannot get her head around the concept of the EU. Merkel does not run the EU but dont tell her that. She does not know anyway.

[Scot Dutchy]

Take it or leave it - that's all you're getting folks.

I dont think they will take it though.

I see the DUP still think they have some power:

DUP may back Norway-style Brexit deal, says Arlene Foster

Leader calls for ‘third way’, saying her party cannot support Theresa May’s plan

Foster seems to have thought about it?? Does she have trouble understanding what Junkers is saying?

The game is over. The ref has blown the final whistle.

[Scot Dutchy]

[Rum]

You really hate Britain don’t you. It isn’t very attractive.

[Scot Dutchy]

What facts are you basing this claim on?

[Rum]

What facts are you basing this claim on?

[Scot Dutchy]

Of course none but that does not matter. You being bourgeois grumpy sod it does not matter. Anything is good enough so long as you think "most people" agree with you.

[Rum]

Now you are just trying to find hurtful words. Sorry but I'm not playing that game you old cunt you.