All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 pm

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Trump loaded a single bullet into a .357 Magnum revolver and demanded William Barr prove his loyalty by putting the barrel in his mouth and pulling the trigger, White House sources confirmed Friday. “If you’re going to be in my Cabinet, I gotta make sure I have your complete allegiance,” said the president before spinning the cylinder and handing the loaded weapon to the whimpering Justice Department head. “I’ve been burned before, Bill, and this time I’m not taking any chances.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:43 pm

From the post by Seabass:
But such false reports can play an outsize role in undermining the credibility of real bias victims and anti-hate efforts. In the aftermath of Mr. Smollett’s arrest, one lawmaker has even promised to draft a bill increasing the penalty for filing false hate crime reports.
That's the real tragedy of crap like that. "Little boy who cries wolf" situations can cause disproportionate damage...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:58 am

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:15 am

JimC wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:43 pm
From the post by Seabass:
But such false reports can play an outsize role in undermining the credibility of real bias victims and anti-hate efforts. In the aftermath of Mr. Smollett’s arrest, one lawmaker has even promised to draft a bill increasing the penalty for filing false hate crime reports.
That's the real tragedy of crap like that. "Little boy who cries wolf" situations can cause disproportionate damage...
Yes. EVERYone is damaged by this kind of garbage.

I think the damage to the media is deserved, and should be exaggerated at every opportunity. Most of the other damage is the anti-social kind.

If it isn't classed as a hate crime, I think it should be. It is a bit weirdly aimed, but it is absolutely a crime done to promote hate between groups.

If his phone records leak, rumors have it that he'll get others in trouble. It's almost like a meta-hate crime.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:39 am

A detailed examination of how Trump's 'get tough' rhetoric on human trafficking is belied by the actions his administration has taken. Specifically, changing the focus of the team dedicated to investigating and prosecuting human smuggling operations to instead engage in broad sweeps of undocumented immigrants has meant that the effort to combat those operations has been hampered.

'Despite Trump’s Tough Talk About Migrant Smugglers, He’s Undercut Efforts to Stop Them'
In his quest to build a border wall, President Donald Trump has warned of jobs stolen from American workers, suburbs terrorized by criminal aliens, and desperate migrant caravans headed north. Lately, though, he has found a favorite new target in the “ruthless coyotes” and “vicious cartels” that smuggle migrants into the United States. “Tolerance for illegal immigration is not compassionate — it is actually very cruel,” Trump said in his State of the Union speech. “Smugglers use migrant children as human pawns to exploit our laws and gain access to our country.”

Yet Trump’s “zero tolerance” immigration policies have made America’s historically weak anti-smuggling efforts even weaker. Over the past two years, as smuggling networks have thrived, the Department of Homeland Security has shifted money and manpower away from more complex investigations to support the administration’s all-out push to arrest, detain and deport illegal immigrants. Hundreds of agents have been temporarily reassigned to low-level enforcement tasks like checking businesses for undocumented workers or locating foreigners who overstayed their visas. Some investigators’ travel has been curtailed, officials said; others have lost funds to pay informants.

In the first full fiscal year of Trump’s presidency, the number of new human smuggling cases launched by Homeland Security Investigations, or HSI, the investigative arm of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, dropped from 3,920 to 1,671, a decline of almost 60 percent. Even more than in the past, the agency has focused its anti-smuggling efforts on low-level “coyotes” caught in the act of sneaking migrants into the country or transporting them inside the United States, current and former officials said. The Human Smuggling Cell, a special intelligence unit set up within ICE to support more ambitious migrant-smuggling efforts, has dwindled to less than half the staff it had in 2016.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:48 am

Collusion (really meaning a conspiracy, collusion is not a legal term)
(CNN)On Friday morning, this exchange happened between White House press secretary Sarah Sanders and CNN's Joe Johns:

Johns: You said there was no need to collude with Russia but there have been so many indictments and contacts with Russians. How do you balance that?
Sanders: It's real simple to me. The President far and away was the better candidate. He had a better message and he outworked Hillary Clinton. That's why he's President. He didn't need to, nor did he, collude with the Russians. Pretty simple.

That does seem simple. I guess this is exculpatory evidence that neither President Donald Trump nor anyone is his inner circle colluded with ...
Wait a minute. This makes no sense. None. And I'll explain why.

Let's start with what we know.
We know, because it was the unanimous conclusion of the intelligence community, that Russia sought to interfere in the election to help Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton, believing the billionaire businessman was better for them.
We know that multiple people within Trump's orbit -- former national security adviser Michael Flynn, former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen -- have all pleaded guilty to making false statement to either Congress or federal investigators (or both) regarding the nature and breadth of their contacts with the Russians during the campaign.
We know that former Trump political adviser Roger Stone has been charged with lying to Congress about his knowledge of and dealings with WikiLeaks, the website that served as a clearinghouse for emails the Russians stole from the servers of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.
We know that many of the contacts between Trump associates and the Russians date back to the spring of 2016 (at least), which is when Papadopoulos' bragging to an Australian diplomat that he knew Russia had dirt on Clinton set in motion what has come to be special counsel Robert Mueller's probe.
We know that in June 2016, three of the top officials in Trump's campaign -- Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort -- met with Russians, a meeting the top Trump brass took under the promise of "dirt" on Clinton.
We know that Manafort, the campaign chairman at the time, shared polling information with a Russian with known ties to Russia's intelligence operation.
Sarah Sanders would have you believe that all of those facts are immaterial because Donald Trump was a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. Which, um, what?

The error at the heart of Sanders' "simple" explanation is that she's suggesting that Trump's abilities as a candidate and the possibility of members of his campaign colluding with the Russians are mutually exclusive. That you have to pick one option or the other: Either Trump was a great candidate (and therefore didn't need to collude to win) or his side was colluding. No in-between.
Which is, of course, ridiculous. It is absolutely possible that Trump won on his own merits as a candidate (and Clinton's failings as a candidate) and members of his campaign colluded with the Russians to try to better his chances. It's the same principle that makes Trump's repeated assertions that he didn't need the Russians to interfere in the election because he was a better candidate. Both things can be true!
None of that is to say that we have any proof that Trump himself colluded with the Russians. We don't.
What it is to say, however, is that him being a good candidate is largely immaterial in whether there was collusion between his side and the Russians. Would any member of his circle know back in the summer of 2016 that his good candidate-ness was going to ensure he won the White House? No chance -- especially because every available metric (polling, fundraising, message discipline, swing state organization) suggested he was likely to lose, and potentially lose big.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:44 pm

More lies:

Trump makes up story about voter fraud, lies about border wall then says his 'language is very nice
Alleged plot to kill Democrats and journalists is a 'very sad thing', president says

Donald Trump has repeated false claims about voter fraud and the border wall as he rejected suggestions his attacks on journalists and Democrats were inciting violence.

The US president, who repeatedly describes the media as the “enemy of the people”, was asked whether he should monitor his own language after a white supremacist Coast Guard officer was charged with of plotting to kill prominent public figures.

He replied: “No I don’t, I think my language is very nice.”

Asked for his thoughts about the case of alleged “domestic terrorist” Christopher Paul Hasson during a press conference in the Oval Office, Mr Trump replied: “I think it’s a shame, it’s a very sad thing when a thing like that happens.”

Mr Hasson is said to have stockpiled weapons and ammunition in his basement in Maryland and written a draft letter to a neo-Nazi leader identifying himself as a white nationalist and calling for the establishment of a “white homeland”.
How can he still walk around?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:27 pm

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:59 pm

8 wall samples to be torn down
Border Patrol Agent Theron Francisco said Friday it isn't clear when the prototypes will come down but added that the money has already been set aside for their removal.

The San Diego Union-Tribune reported Friday they cost between $300,000 and $500,000 apiece to build.

"There is money already allocated to either take them down or build infrastructure around them. But the decision has been made at the national level to take them down, and the secondary replacement project will take their place," Francisco said.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by tattuchu » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:25 pm

Tero wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:58 am
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She apologized for lying/spreading false information? Well that's a first :what:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:49 pm

Daily Coz a year ago:


"Dear Fucking Lunatic,
I read with interest your recent interview with The New York Times. I couldn’t get past the bit about your being the most popular visitor in the history of fucking China — a country that’s only 2,238 years old, give or take.
Do you know how fucking insane you sound, you off-brand butt plug? That's like the geopolitical equivalent of “that stripper really likes me” — only 10,000 times crazier and less self aware.
You are fucking exhausting. Every day is a natural experiment in determining how long 300 million people can resist coring out their own assholes with an ice auger. Every time I hear a snippet of your Queens-tinged banshee larynx farts, I want to crawl up my own ass with a Union Jack and claim my sigmoid colon for HRH Queen Elizabeth II.
We are fucking tired. As bad as we all thought your presidency would be when Putin got you elected, it’s been inestimably worse.
You called a hostile, nuclear-armed head of state “short and fat.” How the fuck does that help?
You accused a woman — a former friend, no less — of showing up at your resort bleeding from the face and begging to get in. You, you, YOU — the guy who looks like a Christmas haggis inexplicably brought to life by Frosty’s magic hat — yes, you of all people said that.
You attempted — with evident fucking glee — to get 24 million people thrown off their health insurance.
You gave billions away to corporations and the already wealthy while simultaneously telling struggling poor people that you were doing exactly the opposite.
You endorsed a pedophile, praised brutal dictators, and defended LITERAL FUCKING NAZIS!
Ninety-nine percent of everything you say is either false, crazy, incoherent, just plain cruel, or a rancid paella of all four.
Oh, by the way, Puerto Rico is still FUBAR. You got yourself and your family billions in tax breaks for Christmas. What do they get? More paper towels?
Enough, enough, enough, enough! For the love of God and all that is holy, good, and pure, would you please, finally and forever, shut your feculent KFC-hole until you have something valuable — or even marginally civil — to say?
You are a fried dick sandwich with a side of schlongs. If chlamydia and gonorrhea had a son, you’d appoint him HHS secretary. You are a disgraceful, pustulant hot stew full of casuistry, godawful ideas, unintelligible non sequiturs, and malignant rage.
You are the perfect circus orangutan diaper from Plato’s World of Forms.
So happy new year, Mr. Pr*sident. And fuck you forever.
Oh, and Pence, you oleaginous house ferret. Fuck you, too.
Sincerely,
Everyone"
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:50 pm

Best line:
If chlamydia and gonorrhea had a son, you’d appoint him HHS secretary.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:31 pm

I think that many on the right found Obama at least as repellent and offensive as the left finds Trump, but while Trump has inspired some entertaining rants, I don't recall anything approaching them during the Obama presidency.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:46 pm

Reason is simple and obvious; which one has a brain.
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