US Presidential Election, 2016.

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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:54 pm

Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:On 2nd thoughts.......

the 2016 ticket should be:-

Seth / CES

(or maybe CES / Seth?)

(or simply Seth / Seth).
What is this nonsense? Are you of the opinion that Seth and I share common politics?

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Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:57 pm

Yes.

Both on the looney end of looneyism.
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Kristie » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:02 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:On 2nd thoughts.......

the 2016 ticket should be:-

Seth / CES

(or maybe CES / Seth?)

(or simply Seth / Seth).
What is this nonsense? Are you of the opinion that Seth and I share common politics?
Romney and Ryan weren't exactly in the same place on the political spectrum either. :biggrin:
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Seth » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:32 pm

Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:Yech. :nono:

There's a big difference betwen drafting budgets and actually passing one, but still - c'mon people... do what you're supposed to do... :lay:
And budgets only require a simple majority -- they can't be filibustered.
Meh. I like government gridlock. Stand firm Republicans!
Yeah, cause gridlock totally helps things move forward. :roll:
No, because it keeps Progressives and Marxists from moving forward. That's the best we can do right now, fight a holding battle and keep the Progressive Marxist agenda at as much of a standstill as possible. That, by the way, is precisely why we have a bicameral legislature and multi-party system.
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Kristie » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:34 pm

Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:Yech. :nono:

There's a big difference betwen drafting budgets and actually passing one, but still - c'mon people... do what you're supposed to do... :lay:
And budgets only require a simple majority -- they can't be filibustered.
Meh. I like government gridlock. Stand firm Republicans!
Yeah, cause gridlock totally helps things move forward. :roll:
No, because it keeps Progressives and Marxists from moving forward. That's the best we can do right now, fight a holding battle and keep the Progressive Marxist agenda at as much of a standstill as possible. That, by the way, is precisely why we have a bicameral legislature and multi-party system.
You sound like a stubborn child! 'I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want!!' :tantrum:
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:23 pm

It's interesting to see the Republican 2016 hopefuls scrambling to distance themselves from Romney's recent comments that Obama only won because he...well, here's what he said:

"The Obama campaign was following the old playbook of giving a lot of stuff to groups that they hoped they could get to vote for them and be motivated to go out to the polls, specifically the African American community, the Hispanic community and young people...

...With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest, was a big gift. Free contraceptives were very big with young college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents' plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008...

...You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free health care, particularly if you don't have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity, I mean, this is huge. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.
"

Looks like that 47% remark really is his mindset, eh?

Bobby Jindal said he "absolutely rejects" that notion and says it's "absolutely wrong". Meanwhile, the Republican talking heads like Bill O'Reilly, Fox and Friends, and Limbaugh are saying that Romney's comments are totally accurate and conservatives should say things like this even more.

Looks to me like we're starting to see some cracks in the Republican party.
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Ian » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:35 pm

Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote: Meh. I like government gridlock. Stand firm Republicans!
Yeah, cause gridlock totally helps things move forward. :roll:
No, because it keeps Progressives and Marxists from moving forward. That's the best we can do right now, fight a holding battle and keep the Progressive Marxist agenda at as much of a standstill as possible. That, by the way, is precisely why we have a bicameral legislature and multi-party system.
You sound like a stubborn child! 'I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want!!' :tantrum:
I wonder who will expire first - Seth while waiting to see the country come to its senses and squash all the rampant Marxism, or the Republican Party due to its demographic death-spiral? :ask:

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Post by Gerald McGrew » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:42 pm

Ian wrote:I wonder who will expire first - Seth while waiting to see the country come to its senses and squash all the rampant Marxism, or the Republican Party due to its demographic death-spiral? :ask:
I remember the declarations that the Republican Party was doomed after the 2008 election. They were declared "a regional party", confined to the South and interior West.

Then Democratic voters stayed home in 2010.

So I'm not prepared to write off the GOP at all. Let's see what happens in the mid-terms. If it's at all like last time, some of my liberal friends won't vote because the DNC isn't left enough for them, and they'll spend the next 2 years bitching about the Republicans in Congress.

Makes me want to slap them. :bslap2:
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Gerald McGrew » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:56 pm

IMO, the best take on Romney's latest remarks...

"Conservatives have constructed a myth that says certain groups—blacks, Hispanics, women, young people—vote Democratic because they’re stupid, because they’re lazy, and because they can be purchased with trinkets and baubles. It’d be one thing if they kept that myth a secret, but instead they shout it from the rooftops. Then, when it’s over, they wonder why those people voted Democratic again."

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Post by Jason » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:11 pm

Seth is a libertarian isn't he?

Anywho.. I think the Republicans will take another swing at grabbing some centrist votes (centrists are apparently right-leaning Democrats now) by sticking another woman on the ballot - maybe one with a few more brain cells, but not too many.

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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Ian » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:16 pm

Gerald McGrew wrote:
Ian wrote:I wonder who will expire first - Seth while waiting to see the country come to its senses and squash all the rampant Marxism, or the Republican Party due to its demographic death-spiral? :ask:
I remember the declarations that the Republican Party was doomed after the 2008 election. They were declared "a regional party", confined to the South and interior West.

Then Democratic voters stayed home in 2010.

So I'm not prepared to write off the GOP at all. Let's see what happens in the mid-terms. If it's at all like last time, some of my liberal friends won't vote because the DNC isn't left enough for them, and they'll spend the next 2 years bitching about the Republicans in Congress.

Makes me want to slap them. :bslap2:
I won't write the GOP off either. But I will write off the culture wars/Christian crusader wing of the party. Their influence will wane as they are driven from positions of influence by the greater needs of the party; that is, the need to prevail in elections. Younger generations are not very receptive to their kind.

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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Seth » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:46 pm

Kristie wrote: You sound like a stubborn child! 'I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want!!' :tantrum:
No, I'm a patriot who is determined to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic and the principles upon which it was founded.
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Kristie » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:05 am

Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote: You sound like a stubborn child! 'I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want!!' :tantrum:
No, I'm a patriot who is determined to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic and the principles upon which it was founded.
....and I'm going to throw a tantrum and act like a 3 year old unless you all agree!

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:16 am

Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:Yes.

Both on the looney end of looneyism.
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Re: US Presidential Election, 2016.

Post by Ian » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:09 am

Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote: You sound like a stubborn child! 'I'm going to hold my breath until you give me what I want!!' :tantrum:
No, I'm a patriot who is determined to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution and the Republic and the principles upon which it was founded.
Where black men (the free ones) are worth 3/5 that of white men? :ask:

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