Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:55 am


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Although, having said that, it benefits the elite to blame immigrants for job losses instead of wearing the blame themselves for offshoring jobs.
There you go. A good example of Power necessitating racism.
There's no necessity there. This is just opportunism.
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:15 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:55 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:39 am
Although, having said that, it benefits the elite to blame immigrants for job losses instead of wearing the blame themselves for offshoring jobs.
There you go. A good example of Power necessitating racism.
There's no necessity there. This is just opportunism.
I hear you saying "No" but I'm more interested in some criticism of the arguments I'm making about the whos, whats and hows by which some group is deemed worthy of discrimination and/or exclusion.
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by macdoc » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:21 pm

They live on a different street :nono: ....
ffs get off the race issue ....there is one human race period full stop. All you are doing is playing into the eugenicist hands by continuing that destructive meme of genetic differences.

Bigotry and discrimination based on sex, skin colour or religious means is rife and sometimes even manufactured ( Rwanda , Ireland and India and every woman trying to break through patriarchal power structures.)

Enacting laws to break up power structures helps as does education and even propaganda if you like in the form of childrens books that celebrate diversity and difference as positive ( Stranger Things does a reasonable job as do many of the sci publications and comics with diverse heroes of all flavours - Spiderman a recent example.

Bigotry is learned. Education and laws can help immensely and at least open some closed doors. Cracking down on social media that foments violence between different groups is useful .....but you cannot cure stupid ...just take away any advantages collusion to exclude might provide .....ie no girls in the clubhouse.
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

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macdoc wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:21 pm
They live on a different street :nono: ....
ffs get off the race issue ....there is one human race period full stop. All you are doing is playing into the eugenicist hands by continuing that destructive meme of genetic differences.

Bigotry and discrimination based on sex, skin colour or religious means is rife and sometimes even manufactured ( Rwanda , Ireland and India and every woman trying to break through patriarchal power structures.)

Enacting laws to break up power structures helps as does education and even propaganda if you like in the form of childrens books that celebrate diversity and difference as positive ( Stranger Things does a reasonable job as do many of the sci publications and comics with diverse heroes of all flavours - Spiderman a recent example.

Bigotry is learned. Education and laws can help immensely and at least open some closed doors. Cracking down on social media that foments violence between different groups is useful .....but you cannot cure stupid ...just take away any advantages collusion to exclude might provide .....ie no girls in the clubhouse.
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Promote diversity in all aspects of human engagement and nullify the hind brain's dislike of "not us" with constant exposure to diversity especially to children but also in the media.....

discrimination is a choice and any advantage people might have choosing to exploit that needs to be blunted by laws. ..... FWIW :coffee:
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

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macdoc wrote:
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They live on a different street :nono: ....
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how the fuck do you delete posts ,..... :banghead:
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by macdoc » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:56 pm

Case in point
Called 'schoolgirl' in N.L. legislature, minister condemns remark as 'intimidating, sexist, misogynistic'

Lisa Dempster wants comment considered a violation of her privilege

CBC News · Posted: Oct 09, 2020 7:41 AM NT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfound ... -1.5756024

If we can't rely even on the law makers to respect the Charter ....what the fuck message is that sending :lay:

At least she used her power to call him to account... :tup:

Discrimination and bigotry is really ingrained and hard to eliminate. I used to use the phrase to gyp someone ....until I woke up to its harm :coffee:
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:34 pm

macdoc wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:05 pm
how the fuck do you delete posts ,..... :banghead:
You can't. You have to live with the shame.

Or you can ask a mod... nicely. :D
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:34 pm

macdoc wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:21 pm
ffs get off the race issue ....there is one human race period full stop. All you are doing is playing into the eugenicist hands by continuing that destructive meme of genetic differences.
Nonsense. You should trace back the context of the discussion to avoid putting an important issue aside with a sweeping generalisation.
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 am

Schools in England have been instructed not to use material for teaching from groups that have said they believe capitalism should end.

A new government document lists anti-capitalist views alongside racism and the desire to overthrow democracy as "an extreme political stance".
https://news.sky.com/story/english-scho ... g-12084043
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:51 am

How can you overthrow something that does not exist. The UK ha never been a democracy in any shape or form.

The ruling classes have always ruled as it is built into the system; the constituency system and the unelected first chamber of government. You can never talk about democracy so long as they exist.
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Re: Capitalism, The Best Solution to Poverty

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:31 am

Thank you for making the case for revolution. There's hope for you yet. :tea:
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