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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Tero » Tue May 18, 2021 11:29 am

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The Palestinian case
One spark for the current fighting is an attempt by Jewish settlers to evict six Palestinian families from their East Jerusalem homes, where they have lived since the 1950s. The settlers have cited a 19th-century real-estate transaction to establish their ownership. Initial Israeli court rulings upheld the evictions, and the Supreme Court has yet to rule on the case.

The Israeli case
The current conflict did not escalate into something approaching war until shortly after 6 p.m. last Monday. That’s when Hamas launched missile attacks on Jerusalem’s civilians. Hamas, which is backed by Iran, has now fired at least 3,350 missiles toward Israel.

Many Israelis ask their critics: What would you do if a terrorist group (which Hamas is, according to the U.S. and European Union) committed to the elimination of your country fired missiles at it day after day, inducing widespread terror? “If it happened to Washington or to New York?” Netanyahu said on CBS this weekend. “You know damn well what you would do.”

Israel’s answer is both defense and offense. It has built a defense system known as Iron Dome, which has intercepted many missiles. And Israel has launched bombing attacks on the buildings and underground tunnels where Hamas stores its missiles. The point of the bombings is to degrade the Hamas threat.

Israel insists that it tries to minimize Palestinian civilian deaths, going so far as announcing some bombings in advance, even though Hamas fighters can then escape. But Israel says that Hamas deliberately stores missiles near civilians, knowing that the resulting casualties help it win global sympathy.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

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Which side uses 'knock bombs'?
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Which side uses 'knock bombs'?
What the fuck is your point? If you have one, get to it.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 18, 2021 7:07 pm

Cunt wrote:Which side uses 'knock bombs'?
Which side uses laser guided ordinance leased from the US, maintainedand loaded onto Israeli jets (bought from the US) by US military personnel?
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Post by Cunt » Tue May 18, 2021 8:09 pm

Knock bombs are only used by the side which prefers not to target civilians.

But ignore that, it conflicts with the blue-anon narrative about this being all one-sided.
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Cunt wrote:Which side uses 'knock bombs'?
Which side uses laser guided ordinance leased from the US, maintainedand loaded onto Israeli jets (bought from the US) by US military personnel?
That would be the side that could produce a lot more civilian casualties, but tries not to.

You know, the ones the Nazi's told scary stories about.
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Post by Seabass » Tue May 18, 2021 8:34 pm

Cunt wrote:
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Knock bombs are only used by the side which prefers not to target civilians.

But ignore that, it conflicts with the blue-anon narrative about this being all one-sided.
1. Oh how magnanimous of them, to knock before they level a city block.
2. They kill a lot of civilians, jackass.
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Post by Hermit » Tue May 18, 2021 9:06 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 8:10 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 7:07 pm
Cunt wrote:Which side uses 'knock bombs'?
Which side uses laser guided ordinance leased from the US, maintainedand loaded onto Israeli jets (bought from the US) by US military personnel?
That would be the side that could produce a lot more civilian casualties, but tries not to.
As of now the Israeli military claims to have killed at least 130 militants since last Monday. Gaza medical officials say 215 Palestinians have been killed, including 61 children and 36 women, and more than 1,400 wounded. Israeli authorities say 12 people have been killed in Israel, including two children.

Maybe if the US sold the same rockets and planes to the Palestinians that they sold to Israel, the Palestinians could aim at Israeli military more accurately.
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Post by Cunt » Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 pm

They ARE getting rockets somewhere...hmmm...where could THAT be...?

Oh, and one side of this conflict seems to be WAY more racist than anyone in US news, while the other seems less racist.

Which US political party do you think is taking the side of the racists?

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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Svartalf » Wed May 19, 2021 8:49 pm

Where do the gazawi get'em rockets?
a) are you sure they can't manufacture them by themselves?
b) Could be anybody muslamic who hates the jews... basically, nearly everybody between the Eastern Mediterranean coast and China... including Saudi, Iran, Irak, turkey... possibly even former soviet block states like Russia and NK...
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Post by Cunt » Wed May 19, 2021 9:53 pm

a) yup. They sure could. I know very little about their production abilities.
b) any or all. heck, charities are so complex that I can't be sure I haven't tossed money into one side or the other, unaware


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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Hermit » Thu May 20, 2021 7:35 am

Cunt wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 pm
They ARE getting rockets somewhere...hmmm...where could THAT be...?
Indeed, they are, but they are not getting the high-tech ones the US is selling to the Israeli government. That was my point.
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Oh, and one side of this conflict seems to be WAY more racist than anyone in US news, while the other seems less racist.
Yes. So?
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Which US political party do you think is taking the side of the racists?
The one that keeps creating laws and regulations aimed at making it as hard as possible for blacks to cast their votes: The Republican party.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 20, 2021 7:42 am

Cunt wrote:They ARE getting rockets somewhere...hmmm...where could THAT be...?

Oh, and one side of this conflict seems to be WAY more racist than anyone in US news, while the other seems less racist.

Which US political party do you think is taking the side of the racists?

(Hint: it's the party of the KKK and other greatest racist hits)
It's not about supporting racists or non-racists. It's about brutal oppression. Again, not surprised you have no problem with oppression.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu May 20, 2021 11:17 am

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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Cunt » Thu May 20, 2021 1:28 pm

Hermit wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 7:35 am
Cunt wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 pm
They ARE getting rockets somewhere...hmmm...where could THAT be...?
Indeed, they are, but they are not getting the high-tech ones the US is selling to the Israeli government. That was my point.
Cunt wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 pm
Oh, and one side of this conflict seems to be WAY more racist than anyone in US news, while the other seems less racist.
Yes. So?
Cunt wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 pm
Which US political party do you think is taking the side of the racists?
The one that keeps creating laws and regulations aimed at making it as hard as possible for blacks to cast their votes: The Republican party.
So the racists (i.e. - the ones who don't let the Jews into their government, or allow synagogues) are supported by the Republicans?

Or you can't see the racism of Islamists?

I don't know all the details, but try to not align myself with the side that kills gays for being gay. Or Jews for being Jewish.
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