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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Forty Two » Fri May 05, 2017 3:03 pm

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Coincidence.... I don't think so...

A flag that represents a "Christian nation" must be banned. The cross represents Christianity, and as such it represents oppression of women, gays, LGBTQ++, and condones slavery in the Bible, and originated the concept of "Divine Right of Kings." It's a hate symbol.
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Feck » Fri May 05, 2017 3:19 pm

My American history isn't too good .
So maybe Y'all can help me clarify .
Wasn't the civil war about slavery I know there are justifications about "our way of life " etc but wasn't "our way of life" based on slavery? Wasn't that the trigger for the war ?
I know there might be other justifications but AFAIk it wasn't a war about Celery or Grits ?
My assumptions maybe wrong if this is the case please tell me .
Because as I see it there is very very little difference between a confederate flag and a swastika both stand for EVIL ideologies Both labeled people Undermenchen .
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by laklak » Fri May 05, 2017 3:25 pm

It was mostly about chicken fried steak. Yankees claimed that "chicken fried steak" was a stupid name because there's actually no chicken in it. They also claimed milk gravy wasn't actually gravy. This was an intolerable insult to the Southern Way of LIfe and we responded as any civilized person would, by shooting cannons at their asses to reclaim our honor.

They also said okra was slimy and not fit for human consumption, and that grits were tasteless. What would you have us do?
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Feck » Fri May 05, 2017 3:32 pm

On every point they were right .
and if you cannot spell honour then you probably should not fight a civil war because you think yours has been insulted.
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Hermit » Fri May 05, 2017 3:38 pm

Forty Two wrote:"celebrate" the flag? I wouldn't say that. I would say that it would be o.k. to remember the history as an important part of the development of a nation.
I put it to you that one can remember the history as an important part of the development of a nation without hoisting a flag that represents the fight to retain the right to own slaves. Or even a flag that includes the relevant symbol in its top left corner.

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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by laklak » Fri May 05, 2017 3:40 pm

Feck wrote:On every point they were right .
and if you cannot spell honour then you probably should not fight a civil war because you think yours has been insulted.
We're forward thinkers, and don't see the need for extraneous vowels like you hidebound European Traditionalists. Chicken Fried Steak with milk gravy and grits is truly the Food of the Gods.

Just fucking LOOK at it. Tell me you don't want a big plate.

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In the spirit of honest discourse I must say that the white puffy things are probably mashed potatoes and not grits. However, mashed potatoes are also the Food of the Gods.
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Forty Two » Fri May 05, 2017 3:45 pm

Hermit wrote:
Forty Two wrote:"celebrate" the flag? I wouldn't say that. I would say that it would be o.k. to remember the history as an important part of the development of a nation.
I put it to you that one can remember the history as an important part of the development of a nation without hoisting a flag that represents the fight to retain the right to own slaves. Or even a flag that includes the relevant symbol in its top left corner.[/img]
Sure, but we have official state flags - at least one - that contains that confederate battle flag as part of its design. So, we can have a State flag (I think it's Mississippi) with a confederate flag on it, but it's a problem to hoist the third banner of the confederacy up on "Confederate History Day?" It just doesn't seem reasonable.

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Beyond the pale symbol celebrating slavery....
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States like Florida try to hide it,
but we know what they really mean....
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 05, 2017 3:56 pm

What's a "grit"?
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by laklak » Fri May 05, 2017 4:05 pm

Coarsely ground cornmeal, usually from hominy, which is corn slaked in lime to remove the hull. It's boiled and served with butter, salt and pepper, though some barbarians put milk and sugar on them and eat it like breakfast cereal. Those people should be shipped down to y'all for crimes against humanity.

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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Forty Two » Fri May 05, 2017 4:26 pm

pErvin wrote:What's a "grit"?
Whatever it is, it is known to the entire grit-eating world that it takes 20 minutes to cook them.
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri May 05, 2017 4:30 pm

They're butter delivery systems, flavorless except for what's in them; and these crazies put everything in them. :food:

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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Hermit » Fri May 05, 2017 4:34 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Forty Two wrote:"celebrate" the flag? I wouldn't say that. I would say that it would be o.k. to remember the history as an important part of the development of a nation.
I put it to you that one can remember the history as an important part of the development of a nation without hoisting a flag that represents the fight to retain the right to own slaves. Or even a flag that includes the relevant symbol in its top left corner.[/img]
Sure, but we have official state flags - at least one - that contains that confederate battle flag as part of its design. So, we can have a State flag (I think it's Mississippi) with a confederate flag on it, but it's a problem to hoist the third banner of the confederacy up on "Confederate History Day?" It just doesn't seem reasonable.
Let me see if I got this straight then: You see nothing wrong with remembering the history as an important part of the development of a nation by hoisting the CSA's battle flag which represents the fight to retain the right to own slaves or a flag that incorporates the CSA's battle flag in its design. You think this can be done without simultaneously referring to the CSA's raison d'être or to the reason why the civil war got going. Just commemorating past history without, you know, the reason for that history.

Pull the other one, cob. It plays the Horst Wessel Lied.

The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA marches with quiet, steady step.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit within our ranks.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit within our ranks.

Clear the streets for the brown battalions,
Clear the streets for the storm division!
Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope,
The day of freedom and of bread dawns!
Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope,
The day of freedom and of bread dawns!

For the last time, the call to arms is sounded!
For the fight, we all stand prepared!
Already Hitler's banners fly over all streets.
The time of bondage will last but a little while now!
Already Hitler's banners fly over all streets.
The time of bondage will last but a little while now.

The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA march with quiet, steady step.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries,
March in spirit within our ranks.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries,
March in spirit within our ranks.

Ah, that community spirit is worth commemorating. Fighting to free itself from the communist menace. Fighting for the dawn of The day of freedom and of bread! And not a single word about the Eternal Jew. It had a flag to go with that too. It became a national flag. Shall I show you, or can you guess? OK to hoist it? Not, you do understand, don't you, to in any way condone or approve of the costliest war in history so far, or the greatest genocide.

Just remembering a very important part of the history of that nation - commemorating the community of that time, the sacrifices they made for what they regarded as wholesome and proper - sacrificing their lives if necessary, just like the writer of that song, Horst Wessel. It should be sung during Deutsches Reich Geschichtsmonat, a month designated by state governments of Germany that fought for freedom from the reds, including those German states that are now owned by Russia and Poland, for the purpose of recognising and honouring the history of the Deutsches Reich.
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Forty Two » Fri May 05, 2017 4:45 pm

Is it o.k. to fly Mississippi's flag on Confederate History Day?
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by Hermit » Fri May 05, 2017 4:49 pm

Forty Two wrote:Is it o.k. to fly Mississippi's flag on Confederate History Day?
Did you read my post?

Bavaria could add a swastika to its state flag. I venture to say it would not go down too well with much of the rest of the world.
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Re: Confederate Flag to Fly at City Hill in Belleview, Flori

Post by laklak » Fri May 05, 2017 6:26 pm

The Georgia state flag had the battle flag as part of it until 2001. Here's the old and new state flags:

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Here's the first flag of the Confederacy, used until 1863:

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Compare this to the new Georgia flag.

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