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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:00 am

How have I been brainwashed by cultural Marxism (whatever that is)? I haven't said anything in this thread other than to point out the ridiculous Christian apologetics of that table you posted.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Collector1337 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:29 am

rEvolutionist wrote:You're a scared little child. Most constitutions need super majorities, often in a number of domains, to change. Even if 100% of Muslims emigrating and locally born wanted sharia law (which they don't) they'd need to be at least 66% of the voting population. Get you calculator out and work out how long that might take. Then work it out for 50% of Muslims wanting sharia (hint: it could never happen with less than 66% Muslim support).
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Collector1337 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:58 am

rEvolutionist wrote:How have I been brainwashed by cultural Marxism (whatever that is)? I haven't said anything in this thread other than to point out the ridiculous Christian apologetics of that table you posted.
Holy Shit!

You don't even know what Cultural Marxism is.

You don't even bother to use google before posting.

You call people bigoted, absent rational arguments. True sign of a brainwashed cuck.

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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

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rEvolutionist wrote:You're a scared little child. Most constitutions need super majorities, often in a number of domains, to change. Even if 100% of Muslims emigrating and locally born wanted sharia law (which they don't) they'd need to be at least 66% of the voting population. Get you calculator out and work out how long that might take. Then work it out for 50% of Muslims wanting sharia (hint: it could never happen with less than 66% Muslim support).
I'm going to make this really easy for you.



I'm not watching those. I have limited internet data. Spell it out in words if you can.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:34 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:How have I been brainwashed by cultural Marxism (whatever that is)? I haven't said anything in this thread other than to point out the ridiculous Christian apologetics of that table you posted.
Holy Shit!

You don't even know what Cultural Marxism is.

You don't even bother to use google before posting.

You call people bigoted, absent rational arguments. True sign of a brainwashed cuck.

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That didn't show how I've been brainwashed by "cultural Marxism", let alone anything else. Cool gif, though. I love Kalesi! :drool:

And why should I google your random scratchings? You can either make a point backed up by reasoning (i.e. not labels alone) or you can't. It looks increasingly like you can't.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:39 am

2.Second, much more commonly, "Cultural Marxism" is used as a snarl word used by reactionaries to red-bait anyone with progressive tendencies. The term alludes to a conspiracy theory in which sinister left-wingers in media, academia, and science are engaged in a decades-long plot to undermine Western culture. Perhaps with some "Sexual Bolshevism" thrown in for good measure.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

Ok, so basically it's empty rhetoric. Great. Tell me why I should bother responding to someone who labels me a pejorative that is based in nothing but empty rhetoric?
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:53 am

Collector1337 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:How have I been brainwashed by cultural Marxism (whatever that is)? I haven't said anything in this thread other than to point out the ridiculous Christian apologetics of that table you posted.
Holy Shit!

You don't even know what Cultural Marxism is.

You don't even bother to use google before posting.

You call people bigoted, absent rational arguments. True sign of a brainwashed cuck.

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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:56 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
2.Second, much more commonly, "Cultural Marxism" is used as a snarl word used by reactionaries to red-bait anyone with progressive tendencies. The term alludes to a conspiracy theory in which sinister left-wingers in media, academia, and science are engaged in a decades-long plot to undermine Western culture. Perhaps with some "Sexual Bolshevism" thrown in for good measure.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

Ok, so basically it's empty rhetoric. Great. Tell me why I should bother responding to someone who labels me a pejorative that is based in nothing but empty rhetoric?
Rationalwiki was set up to oppose conservapedia and with that they are just as bad as each other. It is a SJW hub.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:00 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:How have I been brainwashed by cultural Marxism (whatever that is)? I haven't said anything in this thread other than to point out the ridiculous Christian apologetics of that table you posted.
Holy Shit!

You don't even know what Cultural Marxism is.

You don't even bother to use google before posting.

You call people bigoted, absent rational arguments. True sign of a brainwashed cuck.

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That is all they have left as the lefty/liberals are intellectually bankrupt. Now their name calling and shaming tactics don't work anymore they are at a loss. It is funny how they now cling to logical fallacies like glue, I don't remember Christians being allowed the 'No True Scotsman' defence or 'equivocations' or the 'Motte and Bailey' defence. It is now OK to lie for Jesus...Erm I mean lefty/liberal ideology. The conservatives can never be right on anything even if reality is showing them to have been right all along. So they will continue to lie, smear and name call as there is 'no bad tactics only bad targets' bullshit. It is pathetic really but also funny as fuck. :smoke:
What on earth are you babbling about? HE'S labelling me with a pejorative. I'm just trying to understand what's lead him to label me anything by pointing out what I thought was obvious - that Christianity has a lot of violence in it's book and has required constant revisionism over the years. What's strange about that? :think:
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:01 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
2.Second, much more commonly, "Cultural Marxism" is used as a snarl word used by reactionaries to red-bait anyone with progressive tendencies. The term alludes to a conspiracy theory in which sinister left-wingers in media, academia, and science are engaged in a decades-long plot to undermine Western culture. Perhaps with some "Sexual Bolshevism" thrown in for good measure.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

Ok, so basically it's empty rhetoric. Great. Tell me why I should bother responding to someone who labels me a pejorative that is based in nothing but empty rhetoric?
Rationalwiki was set up to oppose conservapedia and with that they are just as bad as each other. It is a SJW hub.
Well he told me to google it, and that's what came up in the second hit (the top was some random person's blog). Can you tell me what it means?
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

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Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
In countries with a decent constitution that simply can't happen. It also relies on made up shit that every Muslim wants that. Basically, it's bigotted, which is no surprise coming from you.
Oh, so NOW you want to rely on a constitution because Islam may jeopardize your atheism. You NOW claim you have some natural, unalienable fundamental right to be an Atheist? To have a secular government? To be free of religious oppression by the majority?
Can you not read?!? I didn't claim any such bollocks about "natural, unalienable fundamental right". I discussed constitutions. And as they are none of the bollocks that you just mentioned, your reply is a non-sequitur, as usual.


Er, a "constitution" without "unalienable rights" is merely a piece of paper that despotism and tyranny wipes its ass with.

But if the Islamists take power and become the majority, which is entirely possible in time (and is their precise intention because they play the long game), they will "democratically" vote in Sharia and then what will you have to complain about? It's democracy after all.

See my next post to Tyrannical. When you need supermajorities (and even more so in a number of separate domains (like state vs national)) it's almost impossible for it to happen for one group. You and T are scared little children.


Doesn't matter what sort of "majority" it takes, once the majority rules, you're fucked if you're in the minority. As for it being "impossible for it to happen for one group" that, of course is ignorance of the highest order. Can you say "Weimar Germany?"

On what rational basis, consistent with your routine arguments against "natural" or "unalienable" rights can you possibly object to the majority imposing Sharia law on you and chopping your head off for being an Atheist?
Well, in terms of constitutions alone, I don't object to it in a structural sense, but it's just not going to happen.


That's what the Jews of Warsaw said. That's what the French said. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. That's what the Tutsis of Rwanda said. That's what the white farmers of Rhodesia said. That's what the farmers of China said. That's what every single oppressed,repressed and murdered minority population has always said, right up until it happened.
Even if 100% of the population was to become Muslim (which it's not) you'd need at least 66% of Muslims to support sharia.


No you wouldn't. All you need is for Islamists to take over your government and then fuck you up the ass with your ignorant stupidity and denialism.
If you think that Muslims in the west support Sharia to that level, you are off your tree.

How do you know? Muslims are permitted to lie to you and make you believe they are "moderate" and would never think of imposing Sharia on you, right up until they cut your stupid head off when they do so.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

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rEvolutionist wrote:
I'm not watching those. I have limited internet data. Spell it out in words if you can.
No, you have limited INTELLECT data. Big difference.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:14 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Not sure why the left leaning want Muslim immigration. Booze outlawed, gays jailed, women not allowed to vote, atheists jailed for blasphemy; thats what enough Muslims will get you.
In countries with a decent constitution that simply can't happen. It also relies on made up shit that every Muslim wants that. Basically, it's bigotted, which is no surprise coming from you.
Oh, so NOW you want to rely on a constitution because Islam may jeopardize your atheism. You NOW claim you have some natural, unalienable fundamental right to be an Atheist? To have a secular government? To be free of religious oppression by the majority?
Can you not read?!? I didn't claim any such bollocks about "natural, unalienable fundamental right". I discussed constitutions. And as they are none of the bollocks that you just mentioned, your reply is a non-sequitur, as usual.


Er, a "constitution" without "unalienable rights" is merely a piece of paper that despotism and tyranny wipes its ass with.


A constitution with inalienable rights is merely a piece of paper that despotism and tyranny wipes its ass with.

But if the Islamists take power and become the majority, which is entirely possible in time (and is their precise intention because they play the long game), they will "democratically" vote in Sharia and then what will you have to complain about? It's democracy after all.

See my next post to Tyrannical. When you need supermajorities (and even more so in a number of separate domains (like state vs national)) it's almost impossible for it to happen for one group. You and T are scared little children.


Doesn't matter what sort of "majority" it takes, once the majority rules, you're fucked if you're in the minority. As for it being "impossible for it to happen for one group" that, of course is ignorance of the highest order. Can you say "Weimar Germany?"


Dictatorship is something different. Sure, it could happen, but you'd need a majority of muslims in the parliament (and therefore in the population) and in the military to stop the military from defending the constitution. That's 50+ percent. And that's contingent on either the muslims in parliament totally lying before they were elected, or the muslim voting population supporting them in a quest for sharia law. Get your calculator out and start calculating. The last calculation I did was something like 100 years away. I think we've got bigger worries in that time frame than western muslims staging an Islamic revolution.

On what rational basis, consistent with your routine arguments against "natural" or "unalienable" rights can you possibly object to the majority imposing Sharia law on you and chopping your head off for being an Atheist?
Well, in terms of constitutions alone, I don't object to it in a structural sense, but it's just not going to happen.


That's what the Jews of Warsaw said. That's what the French said. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. That's what the Tutsis of Rwanda said. That's what the white farmers of Rhodesia said. That's what the farmers of China said. That's what every single oppressed,repressed and murdered minority population has always said, right up until it happened.


Ok, so on what basis do you claim that muzzies are going to have an Islamic revolution in the west, given they make up a tiny fraction of our populations? :ask:

Even if 100% of the population was to become Muslim (which it's not) you'd need at least 66% of Muslims to support sharia.


No you wouldn't. All you need is for Islamists to take over your government and then fuck you up the ass with your ignorant stupidity and denialism.


Get your calculator out.

If you think that Muslims in the west support Sharia to that level, you are off your tree.

How do you know? Muslims are permitted to lie to you and make you believe they are "moderate" and would never think of imposing Sharia on you, right up until they cut your stupid head off when they do so.


You are a scared little child.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:15 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:How have I been brainwashed by cultural Marxism (whatever that is)? I haven't said anything in this thread other than to point out the ridiculous Christian apologetics of that table you posted.
Holy Shit!

You don't even know what Cultural Marxism is.

You don't even bother to use google before posting.

You call people bigoted, absent rational arguments. True sign of a brainwashed cuck.

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That is all they have left as the lefty/liberals are intellectually bankrupt. Now their name calling and shaming tactics don't work anymore they are at a loss. It is funny how they now cling to logical fallacies like glue, I don't remember Christians being allowed the 'No True Scotsman' defence or 'equivocations' or the 'Motte and Bailey' defence. It is now OK to lie for Jesus...Erm I mean lefty/liberal ideology. The conservatives can never be right on anything even if reality is showing them to have been right all along. So they will continue to lie, smear and name call as there is 'no bad tactics only bad targets' bullshit. It is pathetic really but also funny as fuck. :smoke:
What on earth are you babbling about? HE'S labelling me with a pejorative. I'm just trying to understand what's lead him to label me anything by pointing out what I thought was obvious - that Christianity has a lot of violence in it's book and has required constant revisionism over the years. What's strange about that? :think:
That reply was for Collector1337 as I don't think you are a cultural marxist as you wouldn't know what critical theory was if it bit you on the arse. You are just an old school socialist and are so out of touch you haven't noticed that socialism has moved on to become cultural relativism. You should at least recognize identity politics and making the political personable for the bullcrap it is but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:18 am

None of that makes any sense. More empty rhetoric like "identity politics" which doesn't make sense to me. And for the 4 millionth time, I'm ideologically an anarchist and pragmatically a capitalist. Don't let that stop your silly rants, though.
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