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Re: The BNP may appear on BBC's Question Time

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:10 pm

Arse wrote:That went better than I expected. Bonnie Greer, especially, was a stronger panellist than I expected her to be, she did a good job out of pulling Griffin's leg about his ahistorical nonsense about indigenous Brits. Griffin's response made him look like a windbag. I think they may lose support after that showing tonight.
I agree, Greer got in a few really cute barbs - I think Griffin missed most of them though.
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Post by Lozzer » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:11 pm

That was delightful! Nick Griffin has not only shot himself in the foot, but he's turned hundreds and thousands of the politically apathetic in the politically active. That is, allot more people hate him right now. It was particularly refreshing to see solidarity and enthusiasm in the audience for once, its a rare thing in British politics to hear 'whooops'. I think Questiontime just got the most views its possibly ever had...and all of this is down to a load of stupid protesters.
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Post by Chauncey Gardner » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:12 pm

Leaving the BNP aside, there is an interesting discussion to be had about the bbc's impartiality..i haven't seen an ambush quite like that on telly before. even paxman must have been cringeing...if he was watching.

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Lozzer wrote:That was delightful! Nick Griffin has not only shot himself in the foot, but he's turned hundreds and thousands of the politically apathetic in the politically active. That is, allot more people hate him right now. It was particularly refreshing to see solidarity and enthusiasm in the audience for once, its a rare thing in British politics to hear 'whooops'. I think Questiontime just got the most views its possibly ever had...and all of this is down to a load of stupid protesters.
Not so stupid protesters Then ??????
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Lozzer wrote:That was delightful! Nick Griffin has not only shot himself in the foot, but he's turned hundreds and thousands of the politically apathetic in the politically active. That is, allot more people hate him right now. It was particularly refreshing to see solidarity and enthusiasm in the audience for once, its a rare thing in British politics to hear 'whooops'. I think Questiontime just got the most views its possibly ever had...and all of this is down to a load of stupid protesters.
Not so stupid protesters Then ??????

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Re: The BNP may appear on BBC's Question Time

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:21 pm

Chauncey Gardner wrote:Leaving the BNP aside, there is an interesting discussion to be had about the bbc's impartiality..i haven't seen an ambush quite like that on telly before. even paxman must have been cringeing...if he was watching.
Dimbleby wasn't exactly playing the objective card, was he? I get the impression that he really didn't want to be sharing a platform with that odious slimemould - but enough about jack Straw, he REALLY hated sitting next to Griffin - it oozed from his every pore..
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Post by Arse » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:30 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Arse wrote:That went better than I expected. Bonnie Greer, especially, was a stronger panellist than I expected her to be, she did a good job out of pulling Griffin's leg about his ahistorical nonsense about indigenous Brits. Griffin's response made him look like a windbag. I think they may lose support after that showing tonight.
I agree, Greer got in a few really cute barbs - I think Griffin missed most of them though.
Griffin kept giving her that shit eating grin that must have gone down sooo well with the average BNP supporter. :hehe: How does it feel watching the defender of the white race grinning obsequiously at a black woman twice as intelligent as himself? Then he went into some bizarre rant about the Lake District!!! I'd say he will have lost support after that performance.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:43 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:...Dimbleby wasn't exactly playing the objective card, was he?..
Actually Dimbleby spent most of his time trying to pin Griffin down and get him to confirm-or-deny things he'd reportedly said. Which is how he'd approach any politician being so blatantly evasive.

Although I think he should have pressed that baroness more on her views on homosexuality, the same way he did with Griffin.
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Re: The BNP may appear on BBC's Question Time

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:51 pm

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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:...Dimbleby wasn't exactly playing the objective card, was he?..
Actually Dimbleby spent most of his time trying to pin Griffin down and get him to confirm-or-deny things he'd reportedly said. Which is how he'd approach any politician being so blatantly evasive.

Although I think he should have pressed that baroness more on her views on homosexuality, the same way he did with Griffin.
He did a little - and she weaseled out of it as well. Perhaps he should have asked her if she would wear a burkha if her husband demanded it?
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Post by Rum » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:57 am

Well I was looking forward to that..and fell asleep half way through! :banghead: Too many long walks with the pooches as I am off work. I will watch it on Iplayer.

I was awake long enough for one hilarious bit - about Griffin's association with the KKK leader which was 'OK' because the guy was 'non-violent'. What a 24 carat twat. Quite a flogging in any case!

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Post by floppit » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:14 am

I have it saved for tonight - too late for me last night!

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:21 am

Going to watch it on iPlayer later, too late for me last night. Don't tell me the ending!
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Post by JimC » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:49 am

Chauncey Gardner wrote:Oh dear...live on sky news now...It looks like a full scale riot could kick of any minute now!
The Irony is they are the mob they are the thugs, no respect for law and order, and they are the ones complaining about the BNP!

Griffin is going on the telly playing the victim.....

This is beginning to unravel quite well for the BNP so far. Why do the anti-fascists think it's a good idea to do this?
Even though they may come from a different political heritage as the fascists, they still share an appalling central idea - that mob violence is an appropriate way to solve problems...
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Post by BlackBart » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:44 am

Greer as magnificent!!

17000 years? A radio message was the damning proof of the holocaust? What a dick - you know you've got problems when you get pwned (See? I'm hip, I'm down with the kids) by Jack Straw.

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Post by Chauncey Gardner » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:06 am

BlackBart wrote:Greer as magnificent!!
17000 years? A radio message was the damning proof of the holocaust? What a dick - you know you've got problems when you get pwned (See? I'm hip, I'm down with the kids) by Jack Straw.
the ice age stuff was quite funny...but what got me was the way he said the leader of the klu klux klan was actually a rather decent chap and they weren't really a violent organisation.

The clincher for me was when the other panellists admonished him for trying to deny he shared a stage with the KKK guy, sarcastically shouting "oh, he wasn't there?" and "oh, so you didn't see him?"...I could clearly hear Griffin (nervously smiling as he backtracked from his claim that he wasn't there) say "maybe he was wearing a hood". He even used his hands to form the shape of the triangular KKK hood on his head....and laughed. I couldn't fucking believe it. not only was he on national telly...but be was sitting right beside Bonnie Greer.

He came out with some other gems....but the KKK thing really caught me by surprise...I knew he was a few slices short of a pizza, but, I didn't realise he was that many slices short.

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