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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Thu May 14, 2020 3:34 am

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The news shows are like watching a bad movie. I can get caught up in them, despite knowing some of the more obvious '4th wall' breaks.
Do yourself a favor. Turn it off. Don't follow the news. It rots the brain.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Thu May 14, 2020 3:42 am

I'm waiting to see...this storyline is about to climax. ANY day now.

Plus I want to see how they get sucked into the Smollett fiasco. It was definitely corrupt justice officials, but there was plenty of media involvement, and maybe they can take some heat for their awful part.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by BarnettNewman » Thu May 14, 2020 1:15 pm

Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 3:34 am
Cunt wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:58 pm
The news shows are like watching a bad movie. I can get caught up in them, despite knowing some of the more obvious '4th wall' breaks.
Do yourself a favor. Turn it off. Don't follow the news. It rots the brain.
Interesting article. Indeed, if all you are doing is reading the news stories then you are doing yourself no service whatsoever. Original sources are best especially in so-called science reporting. The beat news has links to original sources. News sources that don’t link to original sources are usually untrustworthy.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Thu May 14, 2020 2:27 pm

BarnettNewman wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 1:15 pm
Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 3:34 am
Cunt wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:58 pm
The news shows are like watching a bad movie. I can get caught up in them, despite knowing some of the more obvious '4th wall' breaks.
Do yourself a favor. Turn it off. Don't follow the news. It rots the brain.
Interesting article. Indeed, if all you are doing is reading the news stories then you are doing yourself no service whatsoever. Original sources are best especially in so-called science reporting. The beat news has links to original sources. News sources that don’t link to original sources are usually untrustworthy.
Yeah, reporting on science is hard because most news organizations don't have reporters with the requisite background to make sense of it for the layman. Television news is far too sensationalist and conflict based to be of any use. As one former newsman put it, they value heat over light. Even my daily newspaper succumbs to this regularly.

I've found long form magazine articles and books to be useful for getting context and the rise of YouTube has made available lectures and panel discussions that used to be available only to a privileged few.

What's amazing to me is how many people don't take advantage of these resources.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Thu May 14, 2020 2:35 pm

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Thu May 14, 2020 2:27 pm
Yeah, reporting on science is hard because most news organizations don't have reporters with the requisite background to make sense of it for the layman.
I noticed that many major 'news' orgs skip sending a science writer. Instead, they send Jim Acosta, or social justice journalists, because they don't treat it like something where accuracy or clarity is important.

It's all a show to play 'gotcha' on Trump.

It would be funnier if he wasn't better at it than them...
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Thu May 14, 2020 3:09 pm

Cunt wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:35 pm
Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:27 pm
Yeah, reporting on science is hard because most news organizations don't have reporters with the requisite background to make sense of it for the layman.
I noticed that many major 'news' orgs skip sending a science writer. Instead, they send Jim Acosta, or social justice journalists, because they don't treat it like something where accuracy or clarity is important.

It's all a show to play 'gotcha' on Trump.

It would be funnier if he wasn't better at it than them...
And did you read the article I linked to?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Thu May 14, 2020 3:42 pm

Nah, when I opened it, it was a full-page banner talking about 'the Guardian'.

The headline leaked through all the banners. It summarized that one would be happier not reading news, so I closed the tab.

Drunks are happier than sober people too, but that doesn't mean Hitchens was right - just that he was happy.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Thu May 14, 2020 4:16 pm

Cunt wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 3:42 pm
Nah, when I opened it, it was a full-page banner talking about 'the Guardian'.

The headline leaked through all the banners. It summarized that one would be happier not reading news, so I closed the tab.

Drunks are happier than sober people too, but that doesn't mean Hitchens was right - just that he was happy.
As the old proverb says.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Thu May 14, 2020 4:25 pm

Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 4:16 pm
Cunt wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 3:42 pm
Nah, when I opened it, it was a full-page banner talking about 'the Guardian'.

The headline leaked through all the banners. It summarized that one would be happier not reading news, so I closed the tab.

Drunks are happier than sober people too, but that doesn't mean Hitchens was right - just that he was happy.
As the old proverb says.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
You can post a blog post, but when you cover it with banners, it gets rejected as bullshit.

Plus, the headline was enough. What more am I supposed to get? Did I miss an important point about news (like theirs) being worth very little in a normal life?

Have a run, Joe. Clear your head of 'news'. I suggest an audiobook titled 'White Fang', by Jack London. You'll learn at least as much as from a similar amount of time spent on news.

London had a deep understanding of his world, and a strong desire to convey it to others. Plus, he wasn't funded by the Guardian.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Thu May 14, 2020 4:34 pm

Cunt wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 4:25 pm
Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 4:16 pm
Cunt wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 3:42 pm
Nah, when I opened it, it was a full-page banner talking about 'the Guardian'.

The headline leaked through all the banners. It summarized that one would be happier not reading news, so I closed the tab.

Drunks are happier than sober people too, but that doesn't mean Hitchens was right - just that he was happy.
As the old proverb says.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
You can post a blog post, but when you cover it with banners, it gets rejected as bullshit.

Plus, the headline was enough. What more am I supposed to get? Did I miss an important point about news (like theirs) being worth very little in a normal life?

Have a run, Joe. Clear your head of 'news'. I suggest an audiobook titled 'White Fang', by Jack London. You'll learn at least as much as from a similar amount of time spent on news.

London had a deep understanding of his world, and a strong desire to convey it to others. Plus, he wasn't funded by the Guardian.
I read White Fang as a child, and come back to it from time to time as it is a classic.

You may benefit from reading To Build a Fire. In a way, you remind me of the protagonist.
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"Wisdom requires a flexible mind." - Dan Carlin
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Re: Media Bias

Post by NineBerry » Thu May 14, 2020 4:53 pm

- the dog ate my homework
- do you have any proof?
- so you trust the dog more that me?

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Thu May 14, 2020 5:02 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 4:53 pm
- the dog ate my homework
- do you have any proof?
- so you trust the dog more that me?
Believe all media smears! Journalist lies matter!!!
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Re: Media Bias

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Joe wrote:...

You may benefit from reading To Build a Fire. In a way, you remind me of the protagonist.
I love that one - and I'm sure Cunt would appreciate it if he were ever to give it a go. :)
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Thu May 14, 2020 5:34 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 5:30 pm
Joe wrote:...

You may benefit from reading To Build a Fire. In a way, you remind me of the protagonist.
I love that one - and I'm sure Cunt would appreciate it if he were ever to give it a go. :)
Looked immediately on librivox (as I don't have a copy) no go.

I'll check gutenberg later...I have to get to my pull day.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by JimC » Thu May 14, 2020 9:03 pm

Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:27 pm
BarnettNewman wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 1:15 pm
Joe wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 3:34 am
Cunt wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:58 pm
The news shows are like watching a bad movie. I can get caught up in them, despite knowing some of the more obvious '4th wall' breaks.
Do yourself a favor. Turn it off. Don't follow the news. It rots the brain.
Interesting article. Indeed, if all you are doing is reading the news stories then you are doing yourself no service whatsoever. Original sources are best especially in so-called science reporting. The beat news has links to original sources. News sources that don’t link to original sources are usually untrustworthy.
Yeah, reporting on science is hard because most news organizations don't have reporters with the requisite background to make sense of it for the layman. Television news is far too sensationalist and conflict based to be of any use. As one former newsman put it, they value heat over light. Even my daily newspaper succumbs to this regularly.

I've found long form magazine articles and books to be useful for getting context and the rise of YouTube has made available lectures and panel discussions that used to be available only to a privileged few.

What's amazing to me is how many people don't take advantage of these resources.
I have a subscription to NewScientist, which I find fits the bill very well. It has had some excellent articles on coronavirus recently. When I was 15, and my Dad realised I was interested in science, he started to buy them for me (and he would read them too). So I've been a NewScientist reader for over 50 years! :{D
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