Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

[Warren Dew]

This witch up in Wisconsin is just a rogue.

Hey, watch it there. The witch I know best has much more reasonable political views.

She's a Royalist.

[Coito ergo sum]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolit ... 37014.html

The subject of the second email was: "Atten.: Death Threat!!!! Bomb!!!" In that email, she purportedly wrote, "Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your families will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks."

[egbert]

Well, doesn't this jest prove how nasty them unionists are! Imagine - a DEATH threat!
Now, if this had been an ACTUAL 29 DEATHS, like in the Carolina Chicken treats factory, why this would be a whole diffrent issue. Threats is one thing, but ACTUAL DEATHS - why, we ain't gonna even discuss such ludicrous accusations. Uttering death threats against decent hardworking right wingers capitalists is one thing, but trying to claim compensation for a ACTUAL death just because a nice kindly right wing boss locked the fire exits so them no account lazy taxpaying minimum wage workers couldn't sneak out for a smoke - what's wrong wit dat?
Tank Gawd them noble state legislators fixed it so they couldn't collect no damages fer being kilt or injured on the job. But, we sure as hell do need compensation, AND punishment, when them greedy, lying unionists start with their THREATS!
Actual killins is one thing, but THREATS is much , much worse! Wese gotta teach them wage slaves to has some respek!

[Coito ergo sum]

Of course.. in the fire you're referring to...a full federal investigation was launched, which resulted in the owners receiving a 20-year prison sentence. The company was fined the highest penalty in the history of North Carolina. The plant was permanently closed thereafter.

So, your allegation that "we ain't gonna even discuss such a ludicrous accusations (sic)..." is just plain stupid. Not only was it "discussed" but the owners were prosecuted for the safety violations and thrown in jail, and the company received the highest penalty in the history of the state and the plant was shut down. So much for your argument.

As for "trying to claim compensation" - there was insurance and the insurers agreed to pay, as I understand it, something like $16,000,000.

This was in 1991, by the way - 20 years ago - so sue me for opting to start a thread on a timely topic, and not one from two or three decades past.

But you're right anyway - the fact that some monstrous company in Hamlet, North Carolina didn't give a fuck about safety means that we ought never criticize a precious, saintly union member for making death threats. They get a pass, you know, because they're motivations are always proper, pure and clean. They're not nasty capitalists. We only ought worry about "rhetoric" when it's on the right hand side of the spectrum - leftist "rhetoric" is just an appropriate tool to use against the bad guys.

[Seth]

This incivility must be the fault of......?

http://www.breitbart.tv/wisc-teacher-ch ... lawmakers/

Gotta start controlling the rhetoric, methinks.

START????

the rhetoric has been controlled by the right for over a hundred years

and if they can't control it with manipulation and intimidation they get violent

Actually, that's what the Marxist Progressives do, as is currently being seen in the UK and Greece for example.

( the brietbart story is a distraction from the lede about academic suppression by the gop in wisc, read about it here
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion ... 2b132.html )

Problem is that Nichol has been drinking the Marxist Progressive Kool-Aid and doesn't have a fucking clue about McCarthy, what he actually did, why he did it or anything else even faintly rationally related to the actual facts of the time period in question. He's just parroting the leftist anti-McCarthy propaganda that's been spewed by Communists and leftists of every ilk for the last 60 years.

Everybody whom McCarthy accused of being a Communist or having Communist affiliations that posed a security risk to the United States during the Cold War was in fact a Communist, a Communist sympathizer, or a fellow traveler who was a security risk to the United States because they were federal employees who, by law (passed by Congress) had no right to continued employment. McCarthy was acting in accordance with the law and the executive orders of President Truman, as were many other loyal Americans, including many Congresspersons, in the fight against Communist infiltration and subversion in the federal government.

[MarkS]

Communists in the UK! Ha Ha!

[charlou]

This thread has became a venue for political soapboxing, making the issue here much more polemic than it could be ...

If someone's dissatisfied with something, threatening the personal safety of others is not the way to go about resolving it, no matter who you are nor what your political agenda is.

And what kind of an example to students is a teacher who would resort to such methods?

[JimC]

Coito ergo sum wrote:

Peaceful left leaning protesters....WTO must go, and we'll set fires and smash your windows to make the point...

The protest groups that do that crap are anarchist morons, and I have no issue with them being dealt with by the authorities in a legal way, and jailed if necessary.

They do a great diservice to legitimate, legal protest movements, but they are not truly representative of broad left-wing and progressive thought.

[Warren Dew]

They do a great diservice to legitimate, legal protest movements, but they are not truly representative of broad left-wing and progressive thought.

No true Scotsman leftist would ever do such a thing, eh?

[JimC]

They do a great diservice to legitimate, legal protest movements, but they are not truly representative of broad left-wing and progressive thought.

No true Scotsman leftist would ever do such a thing, eh?

I take the point, but I am also allowed, from a centre left perspective, to be as critical as I like of the extremist idiots that plague us.

Hopefully, rational conservatives can also give the lunatic right a good serve when they need it...

[Hermit]

rational conservatives

Oxymoron

lunatic right

Tautology

Good thing you teach mathematics rather than English.

[egbert]

Of course.. in the fire you're referring to...a full federal investigation was launched, which resulted in the owners receiving a 20-year prison sentence. The company was fined the highest penalty in the history of North Carolina. The plant was permanently closed thereafter.

So, your allegation that "we ain't gonna even discuss such a ludicrous accusations (sic)..." is just plain stupid. Not only was it "discussed" but the owners were prosecuted for the safety violations and thrown in jail, and the company received the highest penalty in the history of the state and the plant was shut down. So much for your argument.

As for "trying to claim compensation" - there was insurance and the insurers agreed to pay, as I understand it, something like $16,000,000.

This was in 1991, by the way - 20 years ago - so sue me for opting to start a thread on a timely topic, and not one from two or three decades past.

But you're right anyway - the fact that some monstrous company in Hamlet, North Carolina didn't give a fuck about safety means that we ought never criticize a precious, saintly union member for making death threats. They get a pass, you know, because they're motivations are always proper, pure and clean. They're not nasty capitalists. We only ought worry about "rhetoric" when it's on the right hand side of the spectrum - leftist "rhetoric" is just an appropriate tool to use against the bad guys.

Details of the Hamlet chicken processing plant fire were posted in another thread, yet here
you are diminishing the injustices in the usual right wing revisionist style.
So, here we go again - not that you'll likely read it, nor will it likely stop the endless
repetition of the "sanitized for public consumption" version.
First, the "owners" (plural) were not sentenced, instead, the usual backroom deal was struck
where the owner (singular) pled guilty so that his son and the plant manager got off scot
free.
Second, yeah, the owner was sentenced to nineteen years. Not bad for killing twenty odd
people - how many serial killers get off so lightly? BUT, HE ONLY SERVED FOUR YEARS and then
was released. No doubt it was thought the victims families, fooled into thinking justice had
been done, wouldn't notice.
When the victims hired a lawyer experienced in the Bhopal case, that was blocked because he
wasn't "qualified" to practice in Carolina. And the legislature in that racist crooked state
colluded with the Insurers to enact legislation limiting compensation to the victims. Yep,
who needs Unions, labour laws and your elected "representatives" will protect! !
As for the investigation, since the plant hadn't had a safety related inspection in 11
years, in spite of well known problems, no wonder inspectors suddenly felt motivated to
cover their lazy asses by now getting all diligent.
Conveniently omitted too is the blocking of a neighboring fire department, five minutes
away, who offered help while the victims were screaming for someone to unlock the doors,
because it was a BLACK fire department!
As for the alleged 16 million paid out in insurance - is that to the VICTIMS alone, or does
that include the loss of the plant insurance paid to the owners?
Considering the twenty some immediate deaths, and the more that fifty seriously injured,
including some blinded, and many who went to an early grave from their injuries, the
compensation is laughable, especially after court fees and legal fees are deducted. I'm sure
the lawyers got a nice chunk of that money. Pay million$ to BLACK minimum wage victims in
racist CAROLINA- don't make me laugh.
But keep giving us the "capitalist truth" - we're that stupid.
And as for the usual red herring that this event is "ancient history" and therefore
irrelevant today, explain why that doesn't seem to apply to the fucking holocaust.