The Rise Of The Machines...

[pErvinalia]

[JimC]

A perfect example of a closed system trap, where incestuous combining of increasingly degraded information leads to system collapse. An analogy would be excessive interbreeding in a biological population...

[L'Emmerdeur]

There's a piece in The Register about this. If model collapse is inescapable, then what? GIGO and AI text becomes completely unreliable. The fall of the machines?

"Our concern, and why we're raising this now, is that there's quite a degree of irreversibility. If you've completely contaminated all your datasets, all the data environments, and there'll be several of them, if they're completely contaminated, it's very hard to undo.

"Now, it's not clear to what extent model collapse will be a problem, but if it is a problem, and we've contaminated this data environment, cleaning is going to be prohibitively expensive, probably impossible."

[source]

[pErvinalia]

They might have to start again. Train them on pre-2022 data, then tag all new AI data based on that model, and only that AI data can continue training AI. Or something like that.

[L'Emmerdeur]

They'll have to solve the hallucination problem before they try that though or the cycle will just repeat. I'd think at some point you have to allow data-scraping again anyway.

[JimC]

Hallucinating AI! Takes me back to the 70s...

[pErvinalia]

Next they'll be wearing cardigans!

[rainbow]

Nobody can tell me the point of AI. What is it?

[macdoc]

AI Overview
The primary point of AI is to simulate human intelligence in machines, enabling them to perform tasks that typically require human-like cognitive abilities. This includes reasoning, learning, problem-solving, and decision-making. AI aims to enhance efficiency, automate processes, and provide insights across various fields, ultimately improving how we live and work.

and in certain things it far exceeds individual human capability ...seeing things, deriving patterns a human cannot.
Yeah its got problems but....no putting this genie back in the bottle.

[JimC]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-21/ ... /105440772

Australian workers are facing a major upheaval as artificial intelligence (AI) becomes a cheaper alternative to employing humans.

While the full impact of AI is yet to be reflected in job ads or official employment statistics, both employers and employees warn the technology is already reshaping the nation's labour market.

It took recent data science graduate Tien Hung Nguyen 30 applications and an internship to land his first full-time job.

"I feel privileged to have secured this position. I'm going to give everything I've got," he says.

Most of his friends are still looking for work — and he says artificial intelligence is a big reason why.

"Since AI appeared, for example, a team might have needed three or four juniors and a senior. Now, it's one junior and AI," Mr Nguyen explains.

"There are fewer opportunities for young graduates."

[Tero]

Nobody can tell me the point of AI. What is it?

It will help you find the needle in a haystack.

[Brian Peacock]

A perfect example of a closed system trap, where incestuous combining of increasingly degraded information leads to system collapse. An analogy would be excessive interbreeding in a biological population...

...more like relying on your own excrement as a primary food source!

[Brian Peacock]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-21/ ... /105440772

Australian workers are facing a major upheaval as artificial intelligence (AI) becomes a cheaper alternative to employing humans.

While the full impact of AI is yet to be reflected in job ads or official employment statistics, both employers and employees warn the technology is already reshaping the nation's labour market.

It took recent data science graduate Tien Hung Nguyen 30 applications and an internship to land his first full-time job.

"I feel privileged to have secured this position. I'm going to give everything I've got," he says.

Most of his friends are still looking for work — and he says artificial intelligence is a big reason why.

"Since AI appeared, for example, a team might have needed three or four juniors and a senior. Now, it's one junior and AI," Mr Nguyen explains.

"There are fewer opportunities for young graduates."

Seems a lot of the jobs were just nodes in an algorithm anyway. But AI isn't going to lift you in and out of the bath or shimmy your front door at 2am when you've locked the keys inside.

[rainbow]

Nobody can tell me the point of AI. What is it?

It will help you find the needle in a haystack.

...or a noodle in a Hubei snack.