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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun May 26, 2024 8:36 am

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Post by Tero » Sun May 26, 2024 11:12 am

They only invited him for entertainment. Cheap Libertarian convention budget.
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Post by Tero » Mon May 27, 2024 6:47 pm

Trump was not Trump's fault! he was inevitable.
From the most successful Republican political operative of his generation, a searing, unflinching, and deeply personal exposé of how his party became what it is today

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Post by Tero » Tue May 28, 2024 12:18 pm

Ah. There was a plan!
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I think it's more that people think Trump will tear down the SystemTM , and then the US is naturally reset to its Original System, as created by the Infallible Founders.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue May 28, 2024 1:40 pm

:lol: They loved the system when it served their interests. The crazy part is it still does in every way except one, it’s not necessarily explicitly christian now. That’s it.

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Post by Tero » Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:54 am

Democrat beating Boebert in district thatvis dtill MAGA
But McCorkle, one of three Democrats vying for the seat and a former Marine, leads Boebert 41 percent to 27 percent in the poll, with 33 percent undecided. In contrast, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden 45 to 35 percent in the 4th district, with independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. getting 6 percent and 14 percent undecided.

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Pipe Down!’ Megyn Kelly Tears Into Biden, Tells Him to ‘Shut Up’ About Hunter’s Trial

Megyn Kelly: President Biden saying “I have boundless love for my son” is jury tampering.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:23 pm

It's amazing the Repugs paint Biden as being incompetent and feeble while also saying he is conniving and powerful - at least powerful enough to corrupt an entire jury with a father's love. Quite a lot of projection there I think.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:34 pm

Must mobilize forces immediately! Vengeance!!! 'Every facet of Republican Party politics and power has to be used right now to go toe-to-toe with Marxism and beat these Communists ...'

'The G.O.P. Push for Post-Verdict Payback: "Fight Fire With Fire"'
Republican allies of Donald J. Trump are calling for revenge prosecutions and other retaliatory measures against Democrats in response to his felony conviction in New York.

Within hours of a jury finding Mr. Trump guilty last week, the anger congealed into demands for action. Since then, prominent G.O.P. leaders in and out of government have demanded that elected Republicans use every available instrument of power against Democrats, including targeted investigations and prosecutions.

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Post by rasetsu » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:52 pm

"We should do the bad thing that the bad people did because that's what good people would do."

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:59 pm

"We should do the bad things we imagine bad people would do because that's what we imagine good people would do."
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:07 pm

I know I've said this before, but the American system of politicised legal positions (in this case Democrat prosecutor and judge) makes accusations of rigged trials perfectly reasonable, at least in perception, if not reality. (not that I think Trump's trial was rigged, although the prosecution's motivation was probably intensified...). If you have a legal system that is neutral (at least from a partisan political party perspective), which is the case in most other western democracies, allegations of politically rigged trials would have little credence.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:53 pm

JimC wrote:I know I've said this before, but the American system of politicised legal positions (in this case Democrat prosecutor and judge) makes accusations of rigged trials perfectly reasonable, at least in perception, if not reality. (not that I think Trump's trial was rigged, although the prosecution's motivation was probably intensified...). If you have a legal system that is neutral (at least from a partisan political party perspective), which is the case in most other western democracies, allegations of politically rigged trials would have little credence.
But The Law is never politically neutral, and at least the judges and courts are democratically accountable to some extent - rather than being controlled by a like-minded, privileged, self-perpetuating cabal.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:12 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:53 pm
JimC wrote:I know I've said this before, but the American system of politicised legal positions (in this case Democrat prosecutor and judge) makes accusations of rigged trials perfectly reasonable, at least in perception, if not reality. (not that I think Trump's trial was rigged, although the prosecution's motivation was probably intensified...). If you have a legal system that is neutral (at least from a partisan political party perspective), which is the case in most other western democracies, allegations of politically rigged trials would have little credence.
But The Law is never politically neutral, and at least the judges and courts are democratically accountable to some extent - rather than being controlled by a like-minded, privileged, self-perpetuating cabal.
But at least here and in most other western countries, legal personal are not clearly elected as members of partisan political parties. Sure, in a general sense all legal procedures are political (you can say that about most structures in society), but it's the partisan nature of a "Democrat" (or "Republican") judge or prosecutor which invites public perception of clear bias, particularly in court cases involving prominent members of another political party. I really don't think every person with a public position (legal or otherwise) needs to be "democratically accountable" - that's the purview of an elected government, and if they are not managing legal structures and personnel well, they can be held accountable by the electorate...
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