WTF is going on in France Svarty?

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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Rum » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:56 pm

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Whose media? And what evidence do you have that most media has a left bias?
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The thing about bias is it is hidden. If you are 'left', you will find it a lot easier to see 'right' bias (and vice-versa)

With this confounding principle in mind, what sort of evidence would convince you that there was such a bias?
You are confusing bias with preference. Obama had grace and style, whatever you think of his politics. Trump is a fart in a pair of dirty underpants.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:57 pm

:lol: he's a what?
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:02 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:16 pm
Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:21 pm
The thing about bias is it is hidden. If you are 'left', you will find it a lot easier to see 'right' bias (and vice-versa)

With this confounding principle in mind, what sort of evidence would convince you that there was such a bias?
What is bias anyway? Should we cease criticising what we see as wrong on the grounds that there is good and bad on both sides? Should we hold our tongue about Trump because one day he just might do something sensationally beneficially like, say, find a cure for cancer?

I mean, let's not be so biased regarding Hitler. There are plenty of positives about him. He made Germany great again. He was a vegetarian. He loved his dog, Blondi. He always dressed snappily. He invented the autobahn and the Volkswagen. He fought communism. Ignoring the good in him is an example of outrageous bias.

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So you aren't biased, but Trump is equal to Hitler for you...

OK, you are not biased.
Rum wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:56 pm
Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:21 pm
Rum wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:14 pm
Whose media? And what evidence do you have that most media has a left bias?
Image

The thing about bias is it is hidden. If you are 'left', you will find it a lot easier to see 'right' bias (and vice-versa)

With this confounding principle in mind, what sort of evidence would convince you that there was such a bias?
You are confusing bias with preference. Obama had grace and style, whatever you think of his politics. Trump is a fart pair of underpants.
I was asking what kind of evidence you could accept, which could show bias on one side or the other.

Your failure to answer speaks volumes. Thanks for that. I couldn't have made my point this firmly without you.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:04 pm

laklak wrote:
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Who's "we"?
Those of us who are biased. That excludes you, of course.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:12 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:02 pm
Hermit wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:16 pm
Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:21 pm
The thing about bias is it is hidden. If you are 'left', you will find it a lot easier to see 'right' bias (and vice-versa)

With this confounding principle in mind, what sort of evidence would convince you that there was such a bias?
What is bias anyway? Should we cease criticising what we see as wrong on the grounds that there is good and bad on both sides? Should we hold our tongue about Trump because one day he just might do something sensationally beneficially like, say, find a cure for cancer?

I mean, let's not be so biased regarding Hitler. There are plenty of positives about him. He made Germany great again. He was a vegetarian. He loved his dog, Blondi. He always dressed snappily. He invented the autobahn and the Volkswagen. He fought communism. Ignoring the good in him is an example of outrageous bias.

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So you aren't biased, but Trump is equal to Hitler for you...

OK, you are not biased.
I mentioned bias, not Trump, but if you want me to make a comparison between Trump and Hitler, here's one: Hitler's hand shake was a great deal more remarkable than Trump's, especially after Stalingrad.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by laklak » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:15 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:04 pm
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:21 pm
Who's "we"?
Those of us who are biased. That excludes you, of course.
But of course, I am the most unbiased and moderate of men.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:23 pm

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What? a thread about ME has already reached the Godwin point? I'm ashamed.
The thread is about France, Svarty. You, being this forum's only resident frog on the ground, just get a dishonourable mention.

What exactly makes you feel shameful about Godwin's law, to wit: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" anyway?
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Rum » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:24 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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:lol: he's a what?
I really should not post from my iPad. Edited. :biggrin:

Oh, and Cunt is a psychopath.

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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Svartalf » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:36 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:23 pm
Svartalf wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:24 pm
What? a thread about ME has already reached the Godwin point? I'm ashamed.
The thread is about France, Svarty. You, being this forum's only resident frog on the ground, just get a dishonourable mention.

What exactly makes you feel shameful about Godwin's law, to wit: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" anyway?
Well, I expected such seasoned debaters as are found here to not reach that point until 50 posts at least had been cast in the thread, instead, oh, well...
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Hermit » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:55 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:36 pm
Hermit wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:23 pm
Svartalf wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:24 pm
What? a thread about ME has already reached the Godwin point? I'm ashamed.
The thread is about France, Svarty. You, being this forum's only resident frog on the ground, just get a dishonourable mention.

What exactly makes you feel shameful about Godwin's law, to wit: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" anyway?
Well, I expected such seasoned debaters as are found here to not reach that point until 50 posts at least had been cast in the thread, instead, oh, well...
Well, I might agree if there were anything embarrassing about mentioning Hitler when it is appropriate.

I did not compare Hitler with anybody or anything, by the way. I cited him as an example of where bias occurs, so Godwin's law does not apply here.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:12 pm

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What? a thread about ME has already reached the Godwin point? I'm ashamed.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:21 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:04 pm
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Who's "we"?
Those of us who are biased. That excludes you, of course.
Nope. I've deliberately tuned my 'bias' a bit to the right.

I know that. I also know how I behaved when my bias was left.

Respectable people on both sides, sometimes with opposite opinions. Weird, huh? I can like some of what my political opponents offer now, and treat them like people even when I do disagree.
Rum wrote:
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:lol: he's a what?
I really should not post from my iPad. Edited. :biggrin:

Oh, and Cunt is a psychopath.
True to form, Rum goes back to insults. It would be funny if it weren't the same old joke.

I admire how forthright you are with your bias, Rum. Most people would be ashamed.
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Rum » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:35 pm

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:37 pm

Only one or two rhetorical questions..?
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Re: WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by laklak » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:38 pm

CNN has a definite left bias. Fox has a definite right bias. Stormfront is like, really progressive.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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