Corbyn's Labour Party Antisemitism Row

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Re: Corbyn's Labour Party Antisemitism Row

Post by cronus » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:34 pm

Hermit wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:06 pm
cronus wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:04 pm
They got themselves invaded to start a war. This is well know historic fact.
It's a well known historical fact that Poland got invaded, but that did not make the Poles start a war. Germany and the USSR did that, or to be more accurate, Hitler and Stalin did.

Again, you are arguing akin to Jane starting a rape by getting herself sexually violated. It won't surprise me if you argued that Jane "asked for it" by the way she dressed. Apart from the fact that dressing up to look attractive is not an invitation to be raped, I don't know how you could possibly argue that Poland - or the Poles - have done something analogous to that. The Polish-Lithuanian empire was at its zenith in 1619. To all intents and purposes it had ceased to be when the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth became a protectorate of the Russian Empire in 1768. Poland had been hacked to pieces, "partitioned", three times 143 years before you claim it started a war. The first partition took place in 1772, the second 1793, and the third in 1795.
Your quoting ancient history. Like Israel must be the promised land because Palestine didn't exist back then. ;)
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Re: Corbyn's Labour Party Antisemitism Row

Post by Hermit » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:37 pm

cronus wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:34 pm
Hermit wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:06 pm
cronus wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:04 pm
They got themselves invaded to start a war. This is well know historic fact.
It's a well known historical fact that Poland got invaded, but that did not make the Poles start a war. Germany and the USSR did that, or to be more accurate, Hitler and Stalin did.

Again, you are arguing akin to Jane starting a rape by getting herself sexually violated. It won't surprise me if you argued that Jane "asked for it" by the way she dressed. Apart from the fact that dressing up to look attractive is not an invitation to be raped, I don't know how you could possibly argue that Poland - or the Poles - have done something analogous to that. The Polish-Lithuanian empire was at its zenith in 1619. To all intents and purposes it had ceased to be when the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth became a protectorate of the Russian Empire in 1768. Poland had been hacked to pieces, "partitioned", three times 143 years before you claim it started a war. The first partition took place in 1772, the second 1793, and the third in 1795.
Your quoting ancient history. Like Israel must be the promised land because Palestine didn't exist back then. ;)
Yes, I'm quoting ancient history - to forestall a counterargument by you purporting to prove how the Poles started WWII.
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Re: Corbyn's Labour Party Antisemitism Row

Post by Rum » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:49 pm

I don’t know why you bother.

Germany invaded Poland because it was part of his lebensraum policy laid out in Mein Kampf. He used the excuse that Germans were being persecuted there too, and there was a smidgen of truth in that though hardly enough to justify 1.5 million soldiers rushing into the country.

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