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Re: Same Old Germans

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:16 pm

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Forty Two wrote:I don't believe it. Couldn't possibly have happened in Europe, where they have sufficient regulations to protect the people from such abuses.
That's actually why the animal trials were performed in the US, they wouldn't have been allowed in Germany.

The trials using humans went through validation by an ethics tribunal before being allowed. And it was allowed because the amount of nox used was below allowed legal limits and actually similar to what actual people working in traffic are exposed to regularly.
Yes, of course. The animal trials were wrong, and done in the US.

The human trials were fine, and allowed in Germany, mainly because they weren't even really trials because they were essentially the same as breathing the air people regularly breathe. That way, the test subjects can be compared to the control group, both of which breathe essentially the same air, and we can see which group has better or worse results.
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Re: Same Old Germans

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:59 am

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pErvinalia wrote:Any time it's cold and I smell diesel fumes I'm reminded of skiing (back in the day the ski lifts were all diesel powered).
You must be older than I, started using ski lifts at a younger age or skied at some god-forsaken shithole. The lifts at Perisher, Smiggins and Thredbo did not use Diesel engines when I was there between 1970 and 1972. Their power came straight from the Snowy Hydro-electric Scheme. Hah. Day-tickets for $3.50. Ski down Sun Valley till your knees gave out, which usually coincided with the time to have dinner, then socialise with the snow bunnies while their parents retired to play bridge - or so they said.
Hmmm. Well I skiied mainly in Victoria, although I learnt to ski at Guthega and New Zealand. I feel certain the NZ ones were diesel, and I worked a season at Falls Creek and it's actually there that I'm transported to when I smell diesel fumes in the cold. So I suspect Falls must have had a bunch of diesel lifts as well.
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Re: Same Old Germans

Post by laklak » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:25 am

My favorite is the smell of diesel exhaust mixed with salt water.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Same Old Germans

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:30 am

Not rolling coal?
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Re: Same Old Germans

Post by laklak » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:25 am

Only when I drive the F350 Dually past a Prius with a "COEXIST" bumper sticker.
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